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By LEE-ANNE GOODMAN The Canadian Press
Tue. Oct 28 - 6:02 AM
WASHINGTON — A nightmare scenario that has haunted Americans since Barack Obama became a presidential candidate has been foiled by federal agents who say white supremacists planned to assassinate the Democratic nominee and kill dozens of black students in a would-be Tennessee mass murder.

In court records unsealed Monday, officials for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said they disrupted plans by two young neo-Nazi skinheads to rob a gun store and target a high school attended predominantly by African-Americans.

An official in charge of the bureau’s Nashville field office said the two men planned to kill 88 black people — 14 by beheading — and wanted as their final target the man who’s aiming to be the first African-American president in U.S. history.

The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic to white supremacists.

"They said that would be their last, final act — that they would attempt to kill Senator Obama," Jim Cavanaugh, the ATF official, told The Associated Press. "They didn’t believe they would be able to do it, but that they would get killed trying."

In separate interviews with investigators, the men — who met online a month ago and were arrested last Wednesday — said they planned to speed their vehicle toward Obama "shooting at him from the windows."

They also stated "they would dress in all-white tuxedos and wear top hats during the assassination attempt," according to the documents.

Despite the plot’s seemingly low chances for success, it was sobering news in a country with such a history of political assassinations that a Secret Service detail has been assigned to Obama since last May — months earlier than usual for presidential candidates — because of threats made against him.

Four U.S. presidents have been assassinated, most recently John F. Kennedy in 1963, and six more were targets of assassination, including Ronald Reagan in 1981.

Modern advocates for change in the United States, including Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy, Medgar Evers and Malcolm X, were also gunned down.

"These are always frightening stories for Americans," John Geer, professor of political science at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, said Monday.

Geer added that while there’s little doubt Obama has had more death threats against him than usual because of his race, assassination fears are sadly a fact of life for any U.S. politician.

"There are always assassination possibilities for every politician. I remember when Ted Kennedy ran, a lot of people had fears that someone was going to try to get a third Kennedy," he said.

Republican John McCain and his running mate, Sarah Palin, have been assailed by both the left and the right for some of their personal attacks against Obama on the campaign trail, with many accusing them of stirring up hatred and anger against the Illinois senator.

At two separate Palin events, someone was heard to shout out "kill him!" during the Alaska governor’s verbal attacks on Obama.

On the weekend, Palin was still hitting hard, suggesting Obama was not just dabbling in socialism with some of this tax policies, but with communism.

Many of those responding to the news of the assassination plot on various websites pointed the finger at the McCain campaign on Monday.

"I’m not surprised at all by this type of behaviour; after all, McCain and Palin have laid the foundation for this type of behaviour. I’m ashamed to call these people Americans," wrote someone named Bea Smit on the ABC News website.

But Geer said he doubted the two suspects were spurred by anything being said on the hustings by McCain or Palin.

"There’s nothing anyone on the campaign trail could say or do to incite something like this — this is behaviour with root causes that run far deeper than that," he said.

An Obama spokeswoman travelling with the senator in Pennsylvania had no immediate comment.

Daniel Cowart, 20, of Bells, Tenn., and Paul Schlesselman 18, of Helena-West Helena, Ark., are being held without bond.

Agents seized a rifle, a sawed-off shotgun and three pistols from the men when they were arrested, and allege the men were preparing to break into a gun shop to steal more.

Cowart and Schlesselman are charged with possessing an unregistered firearm, conspiring to steal firearms from a federally licensed gun dealer, and threatening a candidate for president. link
 
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It's the return of the wacko militias. Brave Americans willing to gun down or intimidate innocent Americans.

Why aren't they in Afghanistan chasing real threats with real, actual American heroes?
 
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Originally posted by TonyB1972:
Typical McCain supporters.


I thought A2D and Dawg have been quiet lately Smiler
I don't think they're that crazy, or close to being that stupid
 
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Originally posted by TonyB1972:
Typical McCain supporters.


I thought A2D and Dawg have been quiet lately Smiler


tony: A "typical" hate response from you.


"If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?"
 
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These are idiots who should be locked up and the key thrown away obviously.

But to try and pin this on McCain and Palin is despicable.


"If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?"
 
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These are idiots who should be locked up and the key thrown away obviously.

But to try and pin this on McCain and Palin is despicable.
I blame Rush and Rove.
 
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I'm afraid that voting Obama into the whitehouse is going to get the man killed.

Just look at the domestic terrorism that is just beginning. This country isn't ready for this big change yet, too much prejudice still exists.
 
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"I’m not surprised at all by this type of behaviour; after all, McCain and Palin have laid the foundation for this type of behaviour.


What liberal CRAP! Didn't John McCain himself that Obama was not someone Americas should fear if was elected President?


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Typical McCain supporters.

Oh come on Tony, that better be a joke. I'm going to assume it is because I know you have more sense than that.

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"I’m not surprised at all by this type of behaviour; after all, McCain and Palin have laid the foundation for this type of behaviour.

Racism has always been around and will always be around. McCain and Palin have not made people stupid racists, they already were.


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"dem crazy, dem crazy, we gonna drive those crazy baldheads outta town!" - Bob Marley
 
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Racists = Mccain supporters.

Not all.... but some.


Dawg Gone
 
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Originally posted by TonyB1972:
Typical McCain supporters.


I thought A2D and Dawg have been quiet lately Smiler


tony: A "typical" hate response from you.


A typical lack of knowing when someone is being sarcastic from you Smiler
 
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Originally posted by DavidFuzznut:
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Typical McCain supporters.

Oh come on Tony, that better be a joke. I'm going to assume it is because I know you have more sense than that.

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"I’m not surprised at all by this type of behaviour; after all, McCain and Palin have laid the foundation for this type of behaviour.

Racism has always been around and will always be around. McCain and Palin have not made people stupid racists, they already were.


Yes, I was joking Smiler
 
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Originally posted by Dawg Gone:
Racists = Mccain supporters.

Not all.... but some.


wanting a handout = Obama supporters.

Not all.....but some.
Roll Eyes

Let the stereotypical, ignorant statements continue.........


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wanting a handout = Obama supporters.

Not all.....but some.


Let the stereotypical, ignorant statements continue.........


Anarchy said "typical Obama supporters" in the thread about burning signs. Since then we've all been saying "typical ....."

That's pretty much what got this all started, Anarchy's ignorance


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That's pretty much what got this all started, Anarchy's ignorance

That's typical! Big Grin I'm kidding BTW.


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They should be thrown in a gas chamber.
They can find out what being a nazi was about.


 
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There are just as many racists supporting Obama as there are McCain. Possibly more.

Of course, this incident has nothing to do with either campaign, which most people with half a brain realize.
 
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Originally posted by Dawg Gone:
Racists = Mccain supporters.

Not all.... but some.


wanting a handout = Obama supporters.

Not all.....but some.
Roll Eyes

Let the stereotypical, ignorant statements continue.........


I left Obama supporters wide open and that's all you got.

Things are worst for the right then I thought. Razzer


Dawg Gone
 
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Originally posted by Dawg Gone:
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Originally posted by IRISHPRIDE:
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Originally posted by Dawg Gone:
Racists = Mccain supporters.

Not all.... but some.


wanting a handout = Obama supporters.

Not all.....but some.
Roll Eyes

Let the stereotypical, ignorant statements continue.........


I left Obama supporters wide open and that's all you got.

Things are worst for the right then I thought. Razzer

just staying within board rules. Razzer


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Originally posted by eyembrown:
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Originally posted by TonyB1972:
Typical McCain supporters.


I thought A2D and Dawg have been quiet lately Smiler


tony: A "typical" hate response from you.
dude, you just got done telling somebody to go to the "Brain Dept." at Walmart! Eeker


weiner: Don't confuse a useful shopping tip with hate.


"If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?"
 
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Originally posted by weinerdog:
"I’m not surprised at all by this type of behaviour; after all, McCain and Palin have laid the foundation for this type of behaviour.


What liberal CRAP! Didn't John McCain himself that Obama was not someone Americas should fear if was elected President?


I think it's a refernce those in the crowd at McCain/Palin rallies that yell "Kill Him!" when referring to Obama... and the candidates on stage just smile...
No one is pinning this on McCain or the Campaign.
There are plenty of nut jobs on both side... the main difference is the Liberal nut jobs write letters and occasionally mail bombs (unibomber), while the conservative nut jobs ALL HAVE GUNS! (and sometimes blow up federal buildings and abortion clinics)
 
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