NFL Network
AFC NFC
Newsroom Blawg Pound Browns Media Browns Huddle RSS/XML Draft Central
Roster Team Stats Injury Report Depth Chart History Coaches Front Office Training Facility
Season Tickets Single Game Tickets Group Sales Family Zone Seating Information Ticket Policies Stadium
Game Stats Photo Gallery NFL Standings On the Air Schedule
Browns Backers Browns Chat Fan Squad Fan Feedback Results Extra Points Games Color Cartoonz Know Your Signals Almost Famous
Multimedia Vault AT&T Multimedia Vault Photo Gallery Wallpaper Screensaver On Your Phone
Outreach Foundation In-Kind Support Tickets for Kids Youth Football
Special Events Full Calendar
 
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
-star Rating Rate It!  Login/Join 
Picture of Spawn1
Posted
I heard this term for the first time in 2004. In Virginia, we have a democratic fundraiser called the Jefferson-Jackson Dinner, in which the democratic candidates come to during the primaries. I was working this dinner in 2004, and we interviewed a local woman during the event about the individual candidates. And she said(paraphrasing) "I like John Edwards and his message, and I also like Wesley Clark too, but I think John Kerry has electability."

This stuck with me and after the interview off-camera, I asked her what she meant, and she said he has the best chance to win.

I started thinking about the 2000 election and then lately the current election. I think that if you had asked the Republican party who they wanted to be in the White House in 2000, if they could choose without an election, they would have picked Dick Cheney. But they knew Cheney couldn't win the general election. So, they put him with someone who could win GWB.

I have several democrat friends and many that I spoke to said that they feel the best person for the job is Joe Biden. But they feel that he can't win. So, they put him with someone who can win, Obama.

My point is, shouldn't we be concerned that the political parties in this country are running this way. I think the system is broken and needs to be fixed. I'm probably gonna vote for Obama, but not because he is the best guy for the job, just the best of the 2 candidates(in my opinion).


"We're all puppets, Laurie. I'm just a puppet who can see the strings." Dr. Manhattan
 
Posts: 132 | Registered: September 06, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
Spawn, short answer to your question- yes we should be concerned. I have a question for you though. You say that you are probably going to vote for Obama, but not because he's the best guy for the job. My question is what do you think about Obama specifically and the things he wants to do. You are essentially saying that you are not confident in Obama and yet you are willing to grant him the authority to impliment his preferred policies with your vote. That doesn't make sense to me (no offense) unless you are in favor of socialistic policies. Is that where you are coming from?
 
Posts: 278 | Location: OC, CA | Registered: September 06, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by FREEZERDUDE:
That doesn't make sense to me (no offense) unless you are in favor of socialistic policies. Is that where you are coming from?


Lol what is wrong with americans today. They obviously don't know what socialism truly is.

This message has been edited. Last edited by: proman32,


Stay out of the Smack Shack it will only get you in trouble.
 
Posts: 373 | Location: Ohio | Registered: April 30, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Picture of SnowDawg88
Posted Hide Post
quote:
I'm probably gonna vote for Obama, but not because he is the best guy for the job, just the best of the 2 candidates(in my opinion).


Then aren't you doing exactly what you're upset at the political parities for doing?

You do know that there are more than two candidates don't you? But you won't vote for someone you may think would be a better president because you don't believe they can win. Ironic.

I'll let you off the hook. I guess it's possible that you don't think any of these people would make a better president:

More than two.



-Leading the pack since 1977.
 
Posts: 2966 | Location: Blooming Valley, PA | Registered: September 14, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Picture of weinerdog
Posted Hide Post
Nice link on your post SnowDawg. Bradford Lyttle has that "Electability" look to him.
 
Posts: 2819 | Registered: September 10, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Picture of Spawn1
Posted Hide Post
I'm not voting for any of those other guys, because I don't know anything about them. Sort of the devil you know verses the devil you don't know. I didn't want to have this thread turn into an Obama v. McCain debate. I've already stated in other threads why I like Obama more than McCain. I'm talking about the system itself. And I'll admit, I don't know how to fix it, I was just bring up a topic that I thought was interesting and something no one was talking about.

PS. I like Jeff Boss, but he has to wear that hat everyday he is in office. I would vote for Bradford Lyttle, but he looks like an Ork.


"We're all puppets, Laurie. I'm just a puppet who can see the strings." Dr. Manhattan
 
Posts: 132 | Registered: September 06, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Picture of BKisYoDaddy
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by weinerdog:
Nice link on your post SnowDawg. Bradford Lyttle has that "Electability" look to him.


He looks like he escaped from a mental ward. LOL

Most of these people are not even on the ballot here in CA.


----
Dear Santa: Please bring us Marty or The Chin.
 
Posts: 420 | Location: Long Beach, CA | Registered: December 28, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Picture of SnowDawg88
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Spawn1:
I'm not voting for any of those other guys, because I don't know anything about them. Sort of the devil you know verses the devil you don't know.


I'm not attacking you, though it may seem that way but I have a question for you. How do you know what you know about McCanine and Osamabama? From the media, right? So you only know what you hear/see from the major news outlets. IMHO that's not a good way to make a decision anyways. If you want to know about a candidate do your own research. Just sayin....

I don't think the system's broken, I just think the "two" major parties have grown so powerful that they can basically control a sheepish public with their widespread propaganda.

My solution to the problem is to vote 3rd parties into office. You'll have to start small with local government. After you get them in there and they make positive changes it will be easier to get them elected to state governments. Same situation....then federal government. Then...TA DA...the presidency. It's not an overnight fix.



-Leading the pack since 1977.
 
Posts: 2966 | Location: Blooming Valley, PA | Registered: September 14, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Picture of SnowDawg88
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by weinerdog:
Nice link on your post SnowDawg. Bradford Lyttle has that "Electability" look to him.


Boy he's a handsome devil. Big Grin



-Leading the pack since 1977.
 
Posts: 2966 | Location: Blooming Valley, PA | Registered: September 14, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Picture of WolfpackBrownsfan
Posted Hide Post
quote:
My solution to the problem is to vote 3rd parties into office. You'll have to start small with local government.


I am voting for 1 local 3rd party, the candidate for one of those "2" dropped out so the 3rd party is rally a 2nd party


------------------------------
We are NOT better without K2!
 
Posts: 944 | Registered: July 10, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Picture of Spawn1
Posted Hide Post
quote:
I don't think the system's broken, I just think the "two" major parties have grown so powerful that they can basically control a sheepish public with their widespread propaganda


That's a good point. I didn't mean to get defensive, I just didn't want this thread to get hijacked by the "Who are voting for?" crowd. And you are right we are to blame for being lazy and not doing the research on everyone running.


"We're all puppets, Laurie. I'm just a puppet who can see the strings." Dr. Manhattan
 
Posts: 132 | Registered: September 06, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Picture of WolfpackBrownsfan
Posted Hide Post
quote:
And you are right we are to blame for being lazy and not doing the research on everyone running.


I don't know about anyone else but the only reason I haven't voted yet is because I am researching all the possible candidates, or at least trying as best I can.


------------------------------
We are NOT better without K2!
 
Posts: 944 | Registered: July 10, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Picture of SnowDawg88
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by WolfpackBrownsfan:
quote:
And you are right we are to blame for being lazy and not doing the research on everyone running.


I don't know about anyone else but the only reason I haven't voted yet is because I am researching all the possible candidates, or at least trying as best I can.


After you finish your exhaustive research I'm sure you'll settle on the only truely viable candidate out there. Bradford Lyttle.

That was for you weiner. Wink



-Leading the pack since 1977.
 
Posts: 2966 | Location: Blooming Valley, PA | Registered: September 14, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
 Previous Topic | Next Topic powered by eve community