HOMELESS 'DRIVEN' TO VOTE OBAMA

By JEANE MacINTOSH

Posted: 9:34 pm
October 6, 2008

CLEVELAND - Volunteers supporting Barack Obama picked up hundreds of people at homeless shelters, soup kitchens and drug-rehab centers and drove them to a polling place yesterday on the last day that Ohioans could register and vote on the same day, almost no questions asked.

The huge effort by a pro-Obama group, Vote Today Ohio, takes advantage of a quirk in the state's elections laws that allows people to register and cast ballots at the same time without having to prove residency.

Republicans have argued that the window could lead to widespread voter fraud because officials wouldn't have an opportunity to verify registration information before ballots were cast.

Among the volunteers were Yori Stadlin and Vivian Lehrer of the Upper West Side, who got married last week and decided to spend their honeymoon shepherding voters to the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections.

Early today, Stadlin's van picked up William Woods, 59, at the soup kitchen of the Bishop Cosgrove Center.

"I never voted before," Woods said, because of a felony conviction that previously barred him from the polls. "Without this service, I would have had no way to get here."

The republican smear machine is building steam!! Desperation is funny!

I have no problem with them taking people to register and vote because everyone should be able to vote if they are eligible and want to. However, I would be concerned that they cannot verify the residency of the people because they could vote in Ohio and then vote elsewhere. They should definitely review and revise that law because as the saying goes "something smells rotten in Denmark!"

I wonder if the dem's promised they would cut their property taxes?

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Originally posted by fishtheice:
I wonder if the dem's promised they would cut their property taxes?

LOL Now that is funny

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Originally posted by fishtheice:
I wonder if the dem's promised they would cut their property taxes?

More likely than not they gave them bread and wine and told them to go vote for the messiah. LOL, couldn't resist.

Don't think a messiha or a maverick is what we need.We need a lot of house cleaning and that mean people gettin off their arses and marching in protest of mismanagement of this goverment.

Yeah, how many of these "homeless" will be voting in Michigan come time.

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Originally posted by revkev34:
Yeah, how many of these "homeless" will be voting in Michigan come time.

Probably none, they will go to Florida and be forced to vote republican there.

I guess people that are citizens and homeless should lose their right to vote now?

Are we mad about voter drives? Guess what, they both do it...

Republicans wanted to run against Obama, Limbaugh had a campaign going for people to vote democrat and for Obama, here in PA they tried to get people to switch parties and vote....I guess it may be, be careful of what you wish for....

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Originally posted by TonyB1972:
I guess people that are citizens and homeless should lose their right to vote now?

No, but this part bothers me Tony:

"The huge effort by a pro-Obama group, Vote Today Ohio, takes advantage of a quirk in the states's election laws"

"I never voted before," Woods said, because of a felony conviction that barred him from the polls. "Without this service, I would have had no way to get here."

How many other convicted felon's, deceased or even underage were given the opportunity to register and vote?

I find it ironic and reminiscent of:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Legalissues/lm23.cfm

How many of these homeless are former CEOs. Oh wait, those guys probably still have 5 or 6 homes. I'm glad they're still able to buy votes for their candidates.

'Tis the Season of Election Dirty Tricks: Scaring Student Voters

Flyer Warns of Undercover Police Presence at Polls on Election Day
By AVNI PATEL

Oct. 6, 2008—

Election officials and watchdog groups are bracing for the wave of sneaky or suspicious phone calls, leaflets and emails that typically hit battleground states in the final 30 days of the presidential campaign.

Young voters at Drexel University in Philadelphia, Penn. have already been targeted, with students reporting that flyers have been posted around campus warning that undercover police will be at the polls on Election Day looking to make arrests.

The flyer reads like a friendly letter to fellow students relaying a warning from an "Obama supporter": "He informed me that on the day of the election there will be undercover officers to execute warrants on those who come to vote based on the anticipated turnout," writes the anonymous student in the letter which was later posted on the Drexel College Democrats website. "He advised me if I had any outstanding warrants or traffic offenses I should clear them up prior to voting."

Political experts say the Drexel flyer is a classic example of voter suppression a practice that involves scaring, angering, or confusing voters so that they stay at home on Election Day.

"The basic idea is that you intimidate people by saying that law enforcement is using the polling place to catch scofflaws&criminals&whoever. It's basically a deterrent to keep people away from voting," said Allen Raymond, a former Republican operative who went to prison for three-months in 2006 for his involvement in a scheme to jam the phones at headquarters of the Democratic get-out-the vote effort in New Hampshire in 2002.

Raymond says that such tactics have evolved from some of the more overt voter intimidation schemes seen back in the early 1980s when the GOP's "Ballot Security Task Force" used armed off-duty police officers at the polling places in New Jersey and posted signs reading "voter fraud is a felony."

Other underhanded tactics seek to confuse voters about their voter registration. In 2006, voters in Virginia reportedly received fake voicemail messages from the state elections commission claiming that the voters were registered in another state and could be criminally charged if they cast their vote in Virginia.

"It doesn't take much to discourage people from voting," said Dr. Larry Sabato, political analyst and director of the University of Virginia's Center for Politics.

"Generally when people see that, they think 'I just don't want to take a risk. I've got enough problems in my life, I think I'll just skip this one."

Raymond and Sabato say voters should be on the look out for a number of other time-honored tricks, including:

- "Push-poll" phone calls using the guise of a survey to push negative information about a candidate.

- Leaflets or emails listing the wrong date or a "rain date" for the election.

- Automated voicemail messages telling voters that the location of their polling place has changed.

- Repeated late night automated "robo-calls" with a message from a candidate.

Raymond says that some of the dirtiest and most effective tricks are designed to trigger a "latent bigoted reaction." Perhaps the most notorious example was the smear against Senator John McCain in South Carolina before the state's presidential primary in 2000.

Anonymous opponents used push-polls and flyers to spread a whisper campaign suggesting that McCain's Bangladeshi-born adopted daughter was his illegitimate black child.

In his book, "How to Rig an Election: Confessions of a Republican Operative", Raymond describes how he helped devise other subtle tricks playing on voters' prejudices during the 2000 congressional race in New Jersey. One trick involved phone calls to Democratic voters of Eastern European descent using the voice of an "angry black man," while another used taped phone messages to Democratic union households using actors with thick Hispanic accents. The ultimate goal of both efforts was to make the voters "throw up their hands" and stay away from the polls.

Such schemes may be harder to pull off today now that federal laws require campaigns and parties to identify themselves to callers, but political experts say that in the age of the Internet the dirty trickster has an almost infinite ability to carry out their schemes with easy and anonymity.

"It's easy, it's untraceable, and by the time you find anything about it, the election is over," said Sabato.

I'm betting you won't see this covered by Bill O'Reilly.

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Originally posted by trevilli:
I'm betting you won't see this covered by Bill O'Reilly.

That was very interesting. I know there were reports in Florida during Bush's first election race that Jeb Bush had the police forces throughout the state stopping minorities for traffic offenses. I cannot remember the particulars, but I remember them saying it was enough democratic votes that it would have swung Florida to voting democrat instead of republican and probably would have cost Bush the election.

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Originally posted by anarchy2day:
Republicans have argued that the window could lead to widespread voter fraud because officials wouldn't have an opportunity to verify registration information before ballots were cast.

Sounds like the Republicans are mad they didn't think of it first .

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Originally posted by trevilli:
I'm betting you won't see this covered by Bill O'Reilly.

"Raymond says that some of the dirtiest and most effective tricks are designed to trigger a "latent bigoted reaction." Perhaps the most notorious example was the smear against Senator John McCain in South Carolina before the state's presidential primary in 2000."

"Anonymous opponents used push-polls and flyers to spread a whisper campaign suggesting that McCain's Bangladeshi-born adopted daughter was his illegitimate black child."



Actually O'Reilly did cover this on his radio talk show.

Very interesting article Trevilli, thanks for posting it.

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Originally posted by fishtheice:

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Originally posted by trevilli:
I'm betting you won't see this covered by Bill O'Reilly.

"Raymond says that some of the dirtiest and most effective tricks are designed to trigger a "latent bigoted reaction." Perhaps the most notorious example was the smear against Senator John McCain in South Carolina before the state's presidential primary in 2000."

"Anonymous opponents used push-polls and flyers to spread a whisper campaign suggesting that McCain's Bangladeshi-born adopted daughter was his illegitimate black child."



Actually O'Reilly did cover this on his radio talk show.

Very interesting article Trevilli, thanks for posting it.

Yeah, I can't believe McCain backed Bush after he was out, they abused him badly. I don't support this type of behavior from either side. They try to get away with it, by saying its a relivent issue. By the standard, everything is on the table, if its a lie or not.

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Originally posted by anarchy2day:
HOMELESS 'DRIVEN' TO VOTE OBAMA

By JEANE MacINTOSH

Posted: 9:34 pm
October 6, 2008

CLEVELAND - Volunteers supporting Barack Obama picked up hundreds of people at homeless shelters, soup kitchens and drug-rehab centers and drove them to a polling place yesterday on the last day that Ohioans could register and vote on the same day, almost no questions asked.

The huge effort by a pro-Obama group, Vote Today Ohio, takes advantage of a quirk in the state's elections laws that allows people to register and cast ballots at the same time without having to prove residency.

Republicans have argued that the window could lead to widespread voter fraud because officials wouldn't have an opportunity to verify registration information before ballots were cast.

Among the volunteers were Yori Stadlin and Vivian Lehrer of the Upper West Side, who got married last week and decided to spend their honeymoon shepherding voters to the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections.

Early today, Stadlin's van picked up William Woods, 59, at the soup kitchen of the Bishop Cosgrove Center.

"I never voted before," Woods said, because of a felony conviction that previously barred him from the polls. "Without this service, I would have had no way to get here."

Nothing surprising about this. It's the typical Democrat stratagy of Vote early, vote often. Just go back to Kennedy vs. Nixon and you'll understand where Obama and Ill. politics come from. That this farce in Ohio of early registration and voting is a prime example. You think Ohio will have the money to check out how many of these votes are legal? And how many voted more than once? Everyone should have to register, obtain a voters card, and that would be it. You show your card and vote. The Dems would howl because that's the only way to make sure a vote is legal.

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Nothing surprising about this. It's the typical Democrat stratagy of Vote early, vote often. Just go back to Kennedy vs. Nixon and you'll understand where Obama and Ill. politics come from. That this farce in Ohio of early registration and voting is a prime example. You think Ohio will have the money to check out how many of these votes are legal? And how many voted more than once? Everyone should have to register, obtain a voters card, and that would be it. You show your card and vote. The Dems would howl because that's the only way to make sure a vote is legal.

This has been happening since abolition, it's not something new (democrats and republicans). Abolitionists were Republican. Now what "party" gets the most African-American vote, the Democrats. Wow a party using tricks to get votes, revolutionary! LOL. It's funny you are talking about tricks and Nixon, you know what his nickname is don't you. LOL.

I still find it so funny when people says things like "typical Democrat this, or typical Republican that". Little kids and name calling, lol. They are all the same. Siding with a "party" is exactly what is planned. It's all marketing. Republican's drive trucks, love Toby Keith, hates abortion, loves guns, etc. Democrats drive hybrids, love Natalie Merchant, loves abortion, hates guns, etc. I mean it's all the same.

Stop the name calling and vote the issues.