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I do not belief this, mainly due to that I am not christian and just find it a scare tactic. But I find it interesting, discussed it yesterday with people, people brought it up with me, and a show on the end of days was on this AM...heh.
So lets say Obama really is the anti-christ. I know their seems to be a lot of debate on really what would happen, linking revelations with another section of the bible that some think are different stories and should not be linked... But back to the topic. Someone told me that the temple of solomon would have to be rebuilt to make the start of armageddon official, and I think the holiest islam mosque is built over some of the site now. So this would have to be destroyed, and a temple rebuilt there to begin this thing from what I was told? Is this right/wrong? Then we would have to have a 1 world goverment next, and I do not see someone being able to accomplish that, no matter how charismatic in 4/8 years. So is this 1 world goverment a deal breaker? Then someone explained that 1/3 of the saved would be whisked away by god (I guess the purest of the believers). Then the other 2/3 get sectioned off and have to stick around for a bit through trials etc... In the end, the believers are saved, the trials on earth are over from what I see, and is everyone then back to the life is grand, garden of eden type life that was saved? I was talking about this with the IT guy at work, and our owner are die hard republicans/catholics, he told me he asked one of them, that if Obama is the anti-christ as they think, then its gods plan, and brings a end to the tests of earth, so as a christian, wouldn't it be their duty to now vote for him if they thought this was true. I found this intriguing, so any thoughts on that? I do not know the bible, more than a vague outline of everything, so found this kind of interesting. I do not know if some of you that write this stuff on here actually believe this, or its just a scare tactic...But I found it interesting that if it was something that would bring the end of the trials/tests on earth, I would think personally people would be for it, since then everyone is in heaven when its done, I assume. I look forward to any thoughts on this, and I stipulate I could be way off on my thinking here...I am just going by what little I know and things others have said... |
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I know this isn't to your point Tony, but in response to the question, I often wonder about the ability of our brains to express independent thought.
People on here use the term "sheep" as a statement that the people they are referring to aren't using that independent thought part of their brains enough. Usually they do this when they are trying to convince these "sheep" people to think and believe as they do. |
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Well, that does have a theme in another message, where I talk about religion, but I don't want to side track this. I talked about how at most I could consider somewhat a belief in Dieism..But I am against these beliefs forming a 'church' to say or orginization or ratifying terms. When this happens, people tend to impose their interpretations and will on others for gain. I think people want to believe in something, it makes lifes problems/answers more managable imo. I dont want to derail though  |
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I do not believe that Barack Obama is the Anti-Christ. The Anti-Christ I believe is to come out of Rome (from what I have been taught).
But what I believe voters should consider is how much of what the canidates believe themselves. Look at their records and study them. Who fits your own belief system the most and then decide. You cannot look at just one issue as in "just the economy". A person needs to look at the canidate as a whole. I am very concerned about Barack Obama because of his associations with some pretty suspicious characters. 1- William Ayers 2- Jeremiah Wright 3- Tony Resko 4- Rev. Farrahan 5- The Acorn Organization 6- And his wife's comments as in "This is the first time in my Adult life that I am proud of America" Put all this together and it makes me seriously wonder about Obama's belief system. What also bothers me greatly is that Obama will not release his thesis that he wrote in college. If he has nothing to hide then why not release it? I just believe that there is still too much that the American people just do not know about this guy. |
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Thank you for your thoughts, but I am more interested in the topic I posted, we have like 15-20 threads going for rhetoric on the front page at most times, started by Eye, Dawg57 and A2D. So if we can please leave this to those. I just wish to explore this question and see if im totally wrong on my path of thinking, or where it leads. We can debate how sucky/good someone will be as president in probably 10 of those atleast heh. Thank you. |
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wow i always thought that gwb was the anti-christ. i think that gwb has lead our country to ruin.
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Wasnt Saddam suppost to be the anti-Christ and lead to the 2nd coming???
Everyone who the Christians want to scare their sheep into hating is the next anti-Christ. Come on! Wasnt the 2nd coming also suppost to be Y2K and the crash of computers and the end of days? |
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Well if he is the anti-christ you all gonna be marching to a different beat come feb ya better sharpen them sacraficial knives
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After I saw Religulous where they were talking about the Anti-Christ and how the believers would o to Heaven with Jesus. My thoughts were the same as yours in that if people truly believe that Obama is the Anti-Christ they should vote for him.
It totally makes sense. I don't know all the things that "need" to happen for all this to come true, but if they had true belief they would definitely be voting for Barack Obama. |
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I've already copped to being the Anti-Christ in the "Obama is the Messiah" thread. Sheesh, give an Anti-Christ a break and move on with our lives.
"If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?" |
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I believe that "Revelations" in the bible was more of a secret message, warning to Christians in Rome during the time of Nero. There was a whole thing on it on the History Channel, made a lot of sense... Anyway, I do not follow the bible, but I feel there are a lot of good life lessons in it. Teach a man to fish... blablabla... I think the story of the Anti-Christ is a good warning to not put all your faith/trust into someone you barely know and/or shady background. It's a good history lesson from times long past. How many times in history has this happened... All that said, I do get a lil creeped out when I think about the Mayan 2012 prediction matching up with Obama the Anti-Christ prediction. But naaa he's just a socialist... Clay Mathews III in the 3rd - 5th round! |
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I believe "good Christians" will not fall for the anti-Christ's lies. Therefore if you vote for Obama (and he is the Anti-Christ) then you fell for it and will not get one of them tickets to be beamed up... Clay Mathews III in the 3rd - 5th round! |
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So who exactly predicted OBama is the anti-christ? I have heard things, but did not see it attributed to anyone. The Mayan 2012 thing is in itself its own entity that you could match up with McCain too, don't see how it ties to a person also. MY post was, wouldn't 'good christians' vote for the anti-christ, since it is god that foretold this and I guess it doesn't matter anyway, because it is gods will, they will be saved? I mean if you vote against the anti-christ, then you are denying that god is right in a way is what I was getting at.... So this was my question, would you vote for or against, since it is foretold, brings about the end of the trials, and ushers in eutopia for the believers. Why would you want to, put off or deny bringing about this? I have always thought of the armageddon as a negative, seen people associate that way and such, but when I look at it this way, I see that it should be what a 'good christian' would want, since they are saved, and ushers in the new era with god. That was my initial question. So I want to know why a 'good christian' would not want this, or why this is deemed bad, in keeping with bible beliefs. |
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No clue, you brought up the topic... 
It is it's own entity but the dates coincide... all I meant. It could be McCain too, haven't heard anything about him being the Anti-Christ tho. You would think if McCain was he wouldn't have allowed himself to be tortured in Vietnam... who knows though, maybe like Beetlejuice he enjoys torture.
I don't think God would save the ones that vote for Obama... supporting the Anti-Christ blablabla. And no, "if" you were a good Christian you would want to delay the coming of the Anti-Christ so as to have more opertunity to save more people. There are supposed to be many who "try" to be the Anti-Christ, but when times get "evil" enough is when one will succeed... I believe, like I said I don't follow the bible I just like history
The base belief of Christianity (that most Christians don't follow) is just to always do the right thing regardless of the outcome. Radical Christians and Muslims (like Aquadinnerjacket in Iran) believe it is there goal to bring on the end of times.
To give more people the time to repent. Same reason bible thumpers show up at hospitals...
They believe the bus is gonna leave eventually, might as well try to crowd on as many people as you can first. Clay Mathews III in the 3rd - 5th round! |
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Don't worry, Obama isn't the Antichrist.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill's not coming to town, but i still like the pic! |
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What if Obama isn't half black, what if he is half arabic? I wonder what the reason is for him not releasing his birth certificate? I also wonder if his brothers in africa are really his brothers.
____ Yoda: NO! Try Not, Do Or Do Not, There is no try!!! |
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It was posted in another thread that his birth certificate has been released. Here is the link... Obama's Birth Certificate Hope that dispels that rumor!!! |
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The link just brings you right back to this page. |
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Woops Let's try that in instant replay Second chance?? Even if it didn't work it is the same link used in another thread from factcheck.org |
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