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I hear so many liberals so self satisfied that Governor Sarah Palin didn't seem to know what the Bush Doctrine was while being interviewed by Charlie Gibson. "She didn't even know that" they say as if they did. I find this quite amusing.

Let's look a little closer shall we:

After Palin strongly answered "yes" to the question about her preparedness to assume the presidency, Gibson asked whether she agrees with the "Bush Doctrine".

"In what respect, Charlie?" asked a rather bewildered Palin.

"The Bush--well, what do you--what do you interpret it to be?" Gibson challenged.

"His world view?" Palin asked.

Gibson replied, "No, the Bush Doctrine, enunciated September 2002, before the Iraq War."

"I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do," said Palin "is rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hellbent on destroying our nation. There have been blunders along the way though. There have been mistakes made."

Gibson finally explained: "The Bush Doctrine, as I understand it, is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense, that we have the right to a pre-emptive strike against any other country that we think is going to attack us. Do you agree with that?"

"I agree that a president's job,"said Palin, "when they swear in their oath to uphold our Constitution, their top priority is to defend the United States of America."

So liberal critics pounced. "Palin not ready for prime time!" "Couldn't define the Bush Doctrine!"

Really?

Point: President Bush never used the term "Bush Doctrine." Gibson said the administration "enunciated" it in September 2002. But in June 2002, Bush, in a speech at West Point, declared his intention to be proactive in fighting the War on Terror, and that he refused to wait before taking action to protect national security. some called this the "Bush Doctrine".

During a newscast Sept. 21, 2001, Gibson called the President's speech of the previous evening "very forceful". The President, he explained, outlined "what is being called the Bush Doctrine." The newsman called it a promise that all terrorists' organizations with global reach be found, stopped and defeated." Isn't this precisely what Palin said?

And while we're at it, maybe someone will clue Obama into the Bush Doctrine. When Hillary Clinton took issue with Obama's desire to meet with heads of rogue states without preconditions, Obama attacked. He charged that Clinton embraced the Bush Doctrine! "The Bush administration's policy is to say that he will not talk with these countries unless they meet various preconditions," said Obama. Doesn't someone need to set Obama straight. He sounds not ready for prime time.


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I always understood the Bush Doctrine to mean that if a country harbors terrorists then that country is our enemy.


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Go ahead, call me stupid, but I'd never heard of the "Bush Doctrine" either.



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Originally posted by SnowDawg88:
Go ahead, call me stupid, but I'd never heard of the "Bush Doctrine" either.
I would never call you stupid, but thank goodness you're not running for Mayor of Wassila!
 
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I knew what it was, Bush gave a speech and said that we could do a preemptive strike to protect ourselves etc....how this was a change in policy...

You could argue the exact definition of it, im no fancy politician and I talk pretty plain...But I do my best Smiler
 
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Originally posted by SnowDawg88:
Go ahead, call me stupid, but I'd never heard of the "Bush Doctrine" either.
I would never call you stupid, but thank goodness you're not running for Mayor of Wassila!


I may not even be victorious in an election for mayor of my living room. Wink

But who knows; the way things are going I may be the king of my castle very very soon.



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Point: President Bush never used the term "Bush Doctrine." Gibson said the administration "enunciated" it in September 2002. But in June 2002, Bush, in a speech at West Point, declared his intention to be proactive in fighting the War on Terror, and that he refused to wait before taking action to protect national security. some called this the "Bush Doctrine".


Just to be clear....
The main elements of the Bush Doctrine were delineated in a National Security Council document, the National Security Strategy of the United States, published on September 20, 2002. This document is often cited as the definitive statement of the doctrine. It was updated in 2006 and is stated as follows:

“ It is an enduring American principle that this duty obligates the government to anticipate and counter threats, using all elements of national power, before the threats can do grave damage. The greater the threat, the greater is the risk of inaction – and the more compelling the case for taking anticipatory action to defend ourselves, even if uncertainty remains as to the time and place of the enemy’s attack. There are few greater threats than a terrorist attack with WMD. To forestall or prevent such hostile acts by our adversaries, the United States will, if necessary, act preemptively in exercising our inherent right of self-defense."

The Bush Doctrine has been formulated as a collection of strategy principles, practical policy decisions, and a set of logical rationales and ideas for guiding United States foreign policy. Two main pillars are identified for the doctrine: preemptive strikes against potential enemies and promoting democratic regime change.

The George W. Bush administration claims that the United States is locked in a global war; a war of ideology, in which its enemies are bound together by a common ideology and a common hatred of democracy.

Out of the National Security Stategy, four main points are highlighted as the core to the Bush Doctrine: Preemption, Military Primacy, New Multilateralism, and the Spread of Democracy.

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I think it's understandable that she wouldn't know verbatim of course or even all it's parts but her handlers aren't doing so well lately, lol. I suspect we're going to see few Palin interviews moving forward.


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I think things will be just the opposite. We will see more of her. She did very well in her debate and the McCain campaign needs her out front. I think she articulates the campaigns point of view better than he does. She is certainly more popular with the base than he is. The press has ben trying desperately to lesson her appeal by asking questions that are designed to trip her up. The Bush doctrine question is an example of such a question. Eye demonstrated that very well. Evan the entertainment wing of the media is trying to affect the publics impression of governor Palin. I give you the SNL skits of recent weeks as exhibits 1,2, and 3. Sarah is the best hope McCain has left if you ask me. It's time to turn her loose.
 
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This was so blown out of proportion.The question was very vague.I believe in that interview Palin kept asking "which part" or to be more specific.But this gets spun into Palin not knowing her stuff.It's like asking "what do you think about the constitution?".

I must admit though,I was disappointed with Sarah when she couldn't name supreme court decisions. I think the question,while fair, caught her off guard. There are big holes in each Pres and VP candidates resumes,and if this is her biggest downfall,I'm fine with that.I'd rather have someone that's somewhat unfamiliar with Washington but full of common sense than the opposite.
 
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I give you the SNL skits of recent weeks as exhibits 1,2, and 3. Sarah is the best hope McCain has left if you ask me. It's time to turn her loose.


I think it's pretty disgusting how the Obama campaign basically gets free biased tv ads slamming the right and putting really biased material out there.
 
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I couldn't agree with you more. For the past twelve years we have all witnessed the mainstream media become increasingly more braisen and obvious in their bias behavior. The democrats and their accomplises in the media, news and entertainment, will stop at nothing to elect Obama.
 
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The right has its own News Network, they own the Washington Post as well as other newspapers, and they own AM radio putting their message out through various "entertainers" on practically a 24/7 schedule. And you're still complaining about unfairness when people speak their minds and you disagree. If any minority had that kind of media power behind it the Right would blow a gasket.

This is from the party that is trying to force students to learn "creationism" as a science, because real science is "biased".
 
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Originally posted by SnowDawg88:
Go ahead, call me stupid, but I'd never heard of the "Bush Doctrine" either.

I had heard of it, but it kept changing so I gave up following it. It was like trying to follow Obama on any issue except the Iraq War.


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Google up the New American Century and you can read what became the Bush Doctrine. This was envisioned by his neocon buddies
 
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I give you the SNL skits of recent weeks as exhibits 1,2, and 3. Sarah is the best hope McCain has left if you ask me. It's time to turn her loose.


I think it's pretty disgusting how the Obama campaign basically gets free biased tv ads slamming the right and putting really biased material out there.


I think that both sides of this race have said things that are not true or are unsubstantiated. Both sides are doing a heck of a job tearing each other down, too bad they both cannot spend more time and energy giving as more clarity on where they stand and exactly how they plan to attain the goals they set for their administrations.

I am not sure that Obama is getting any more of a free pass then McCain. Especially when McCain spreads unsubstantiated nonsense about a connection with Ayer or that he is a Muslim.

By the way there are no rules that allow one religion over another to run for President so even if Obama was Muslim he has as much right, as a citizen of the U.S., to run for President as McCain or for that matter you do.

Another thing, all (and I do mean all) politicians lie, cheat, and steal. Its the nature of the game of politics.
 
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Especially when McCain spreads unsubstantiated nonsense about a connection with Ayer or that he is a Muslim.

McCain spread that rumor? ConfusedHow rude...


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Especially when McCain spreads unsubstantiated nonsense about a connection with Ayer or that he is a Muslim.

McCain spread that rumor? ConfusedHow rude...


Irish, I did not say it was rude. LOL Stupid maybe, but it makes perfect political sense to berate someone based on their religion. Roll Eyes Particularly in a country founded on having religous freedoms. Freedoms which thousands have died to protect so that you, Obama, McCain, and myself can chose who we wish to worship without condemnation from others.
 
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Especially when McCain spreads unsubstantiated nonsense about a connection with Ayer or that he is a Muslim.

McCain spread that rumor? ConfusedHow rude...


Irish, I did not say it was rude. LOL Stupid maybe, but it makes perfect political sense to berate someone based on their religion. Roll Eyes Particularly in a country founded on having religous freedoms. Freedoms which thousands have died to protect so that you, Obama, McCain, and myself can chose who we wish to worship without condemnation from others.

I never said you said it was rude. You're free to worship whoever or whatever you want. hug a tree if you must. Big Grin


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Originally posted by IRISHPRIDE:
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Especially when McCain spreads unsubstantiated nonsense about a connection with Ayer or that he is a Muslim.

McCain spread that rumor? ConfusedHow rude...

Irish, I did not say it was rude. LOL Stupid maybe, but it makes perfect political sense to berate someone based on their religion. Roll Eyes Particularly in a country founded on having religous freedoms. Freedoms which thousands have died to protect so that you, Obama, McCain, and myself can chose who we wish to worship without condemnation from others.

I never said you said it was rude. You're free to worship whoever or whatever you want. hug a tree if you must. Big Grin


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Well farmville,I guess we know who's getting your vote. Confused


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