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Thanks, I needed a good laugh today. Poor poor white christians, always being attacked, the good Mr Hutcherson has to stand up for them. Read some of his quotes and I doubt you will take him seriously.

I just ran through some of his quotes on wikipedia, didn't find anything I didn't agree with. Perhaps you could provide a link?

I don't agree with a lot of the article. It covers a lot of area, and would be too much to get into and would derail the thread (my disagreements are not total, just some of the assumptions I do not agree with 100%). So I will stick to the major theme.


Rush's partners dropped him, not the NFL. They deemed he was not important enough to go to the NFL with him as part of the package.


He calls Demaurice Smith a coward for things he does every day. He tells people his version of the 'truth', and its just how it is...Demaurice works for the NFL players. I say multiple players voicing displeasure with Rush, and saying how they didn't know if they would play for a team he was associated with (I personally could care less if Rush was in the NFL, and I think the players overetimated what his minority ownership would do...but..theirs freedom of speech). So you have a handful that publicly spoke out, and whenever you have this, you often have a good amount that are silent and sent word most likely to Demaurice. So it was his job to voice the concerns of players. One team owner came out and publicly said he would vote against a group with him (happens all the time, doesn't mean it would of failed, I would guess you had owners that listened to and liked Rush on the other side of the coin).


So his group that he aligned himself with saw some players and the player rep displaying doubts....Then they saw 1 owner say no. So they decided that it made business sense to drop the weight that was making the ride rocky. They could of toughed it out, and who knows, maybe he would of made it through.


The NFL is in a position of strength as the most popular league in the U.S., they are not begging people for money. They can be choosy and always are. Other people have been questioned and denied, not only the sacrificial lamb Rush (well he didn't even get denied, except by his 'friends').


So if you want to blame someone, blame his friends for not having the will/conviction to stand by their 'friend'. Its hard to say you got kicked out or denied, when you never got that far.


Players have a freedom of speech, and the league is mostly made up of minorities. If a minority owner would make you lose even 1 free agent that you really wanted, is that guy really worth having on your ownership team? You try to minimize problems and issues, not add to them. So his 'friends' dumped him...Its funny that I haven't seen anyone lash out at them.

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Originally posted by TonyB1972:

So if you want to blame someone, blame his friends for not having the will/conviction to stand by their 'friend'. Its hard to say you got kicked out or denied, when you never got that far.

The Checkett Foundation approached Limbaugh to be a part owner in the group not the other way around. However, letters from various political groups (enter Jesse Jackson) to the NFL commissioner helped sway the Checkett group (friends?) to go in a different direction.

Also enter certain news media outlets such as CNN with phony racial quotes from Rich Sanchez that Limbaugh was supposed to have made, Hollywood celebrities chimming in, liberal talk show hosts voicing their opinion...no he never got that far....wonder why?

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Originally posted by fishtheice:

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Originally posted by TonyB1972:

So if you want to blame someone, blame his friends for not having the will/conviction to stand by their 'friend'. Its hard to say you got kicked out or denied, when you never got that far.

The Checkett Foundation approached Limbaugh to be a part owner in the group not the other way around. However, letters from various political groups (enter Jesse Jackson) to the NFL commissioner helped sway the Checkett group (friends?) to go in a different direction.

Also enter certain news media outlets such as CNN with phony racial quotes from Rich Sanchez that Limbaugh was supposed to have made, Hollywood celebrities chimming in, liberal talk show hosts voicing their opinion...no he never got that far....wonder why?

I know, thats what I mean, I knew they approached him, then they gave up on him, without going to bat for him. I understand it, but it doesn't mean they did everything in their power. If they believed in him, stand by your man!

The Sanchez thing was addressed, just as Rush's fake story on the president. It was bad reporting. The celebrities always chime in, I hate it. I listen/watch them for entertainment, not for a political/social conscious. I boycot watching/buying a lot of their stuff, its stupid and personal, not a movement, but its my personal way of telling myself I didn't let them off the hook for thinking that since they are a 'star' that their opinion means more than my neighbor.


You have a ? on friends, but I guarantee if I was going to go into a multimillion dollar deal with some people, I would like them. I wouldn't be doing stuff with people I hated...Desperate people sometimes do, but nothing about a man that has made over half a billion in the last 10 years screams desperate. So I figure they had a familiar, friendly respect for each other. Best friends? No, but I would hazard to guess leading up to this, before the storm, he probably was introduced by them, or him them, as a friend to someone.


Like I said, I think it was a judgement that was overblown. He would of been a minority owner and I doubt he would of had much input on things that people feared. Its not like he would of tried to make a all white team or something stupid...


The thing is, you live by the big mouth, and rush to judgement on others....When you get hit with your own medicine, its like the boy that crys wolf to me....fair or not. He makes money by being controversial, and getting people to talk about him and even hate him.


If his 'friends' had stuck by him, and the process played out and he was denied, he would have more of a debate on this. Those guys dumped him, and moved on. We can only speculate on weither he would of made it, if they had stuck by him.


If he signs another big contract, I wouldn't be suprised if he couldn't buy a sports franchise of whatever type outright by himself. He would then have operating cash and collateral of a sort.

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Originally posted by fishtheice:

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Originally posted by TonyB1972:

So if you want to blame someone, blame his friends for not having the will/conviction to stand by their 'friend'. Its hard to say you got kicked out or denied, when you never got that far.

The Checkett Foundation approached Limbaugh to be a part owner in the group not the other way around. However, letters from various political groups (enter Jesse Jackson) to the NFL commissioner helped sway the Checkett group (friends?) to go in a different direction.

Also enter certain news media outlets such as CNN with phony racial quotes from Rich Sanchez that Limbaugh was supposed to have made, Hollywood celebrities chimming in, liberal talk show hosts voicing their opinion...no he never got that far....wonder why?

What's good for the goose, Rush sits behind the mic all day doing nothing but criticizing people, if he can't take the criticism himself, he should re-read his bible.

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Originally posted by MrTed:
I just ran through some of his quotes on wikipedia, didn't find anything I didn't agree with. Perhaps you could provide a link?

Would you vote him for president? Because he says, "America is lucky I don't want to be president."

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Originally posted by daDieken:
Read some of his quotes and I doubt you will take him seriously.

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Would you vote him for president? Because he says, "America is lucky I don't want to be president."[/QUOTE]


That's it...that's all you've got for quotes?

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Originally posted by fishtheice:

That's it...that's all you've got for quotes?

"Hutcherson: I think it's going to be controversial to those believers who don't want to admit the suffering that Christ had to go through to pay for our sins. I think it's going to be controversial to the whole view of the Jewish nation. The truth is that they did push to have Christ crucified. That's just plain truth... that's Biblical truth."

Hutcherson responding to a question from John Iwasaki on how his increased public profile has affected him. "God plus Hutch is enough."

"My idea here is to drop a spiritual bomb on D.C., like Spain, where they had the terrorist bomb"

Hutcherson claims he was granted Special Envoy status by the White House during a speech at the New Generation Church in Riga, Latvia.
"You're to see that's the proof and I don't appreciate people me out a liar. You'll be able to listen to it and you can decide how much power I had when I went over there." Reacting to official White House denials that he had been granted “Special Envoy” status by the White House Office of Faith Based Initiatives.

Not to mention he his queerly homophobic, while in Latvia, one of the speakers talked about how gay people helped form the 3rd reich. He's just another egotistical, press seeking neo-con who like the rest, makes constant accusations to hide something about himself.

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Originally posted by daDieken:

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Originally posted by fishtheice:

That's it...that's all you've got for quotes?

"Hutcherson: I think it's going to be controversial to those believers who don't want to admit the suffering that Christ had to go through to pay for our sins. I think it's going to be controversial to the whole view of the Jewish nation. The truth is that they did push to have Christ crucified. That's just plain truth... that's Biblical truth."

Hutcherson responding to a question from John Iwasaki on how his increased public profile has affected him. "God plus Hutch is enough."

"My idea here is to drop a spiritual bomb on D.C., like Spain, where they had the terrorist bomb"

Hutcherson claims he was granted Special Envoy status by the White House during a speech at the New Generation Church in Riga, Latvia.
"You're to see that's the proof and I don't appreciate people me out a liar. You'll be able to listen to it and you can decide how much power I had when I went over there." Reacting to official White House denials that he had been granted “Special Envoy” status by the White House Office of Faith Based Initiatives.

Not to mention he his queerly homophobic, while in Latvia, one of the speakers talked about how gay people helped form the 3rd reich. He's just another egotistical, press seeking neo-con who like the rest, makes constant accusations to hide something about himself.

While the left is nothing but a bunch of tolerant flower sniffing all accepting liberals. None of that makes me worry about the guy. He's just another person with an opinion.
Sorry we have certain convictions about what made this country great and we don't want to go down the path we believe with all of our hearts will destroy it. It may be a slow slide at first, but I'm gonna have descendants that I'd like to grow up in the America I did. Where I stood and fell on my own, then got back up on my own. Do you remember the fall of communism? Why did it fall? 'Cause it didn't work! But you say, 'socialism isn't communism!' I say, 'not yet'. Tell me something, if this health care bill was so good then why aren't the people who are forcing it on us (don't give me the public option thing, I don't buy it) voting it onto themselves? They aren't you know! Why isn't what's good for the gander good for the goose?

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Originally posted by daDieken:

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Originally posted by fishtheice:

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Originally posted by TonyB1972:

So if you want to blame someone, blame his friends for not having the will/conviction to stand by their 'friend'. Its hard to say you got kicked out or denied, when you never got that far.

The Checkett Foundation approached Limbaugh to be a part owner in the group not the other way around. However, letters from various political groups (enter Jesse Jackson) to the NFL commissioner helped sway the Checkett group (friends?) to go in a different direction.

Also enter certain news media outlets such as CNN with phony racial quotes from Rich Sanchez that Limbaugh was supposed to have made, Hollywood celebrities chimming in, liberal talk show hosts voicing their opinion...no he never got that far....wonder why?

What's good for the goose, Rush sits behind the mic all day doing nothing but criticizing people, if he can't take the criticism himself, he should re-read his bible.

He can certainly take it, and then re dish it like he did when he learned that the president's 'thesis' was a hoax, which he warned at the outset he was checking on to see if it was true (had it been me I would've waited, but hey-it wasn't me). When I read this article, what stood out to me was the absolute indifferent attitude with which the media totally fabricated (and it's been proven!) everything they said he said! Then they 'justify' it by saying, 'well we know he thinks it!' Which was a load of feces as well!

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Originally posted by MrTed:

While the left is nothing but a bunch of tolerant flower sniffing all accepting liberals. None of that makes me worry about the guy. He's just another person with an opinion.
Sorry we have certain convictions about what made this country great and we don't want to go down the path we believe with all of our hearts will destroy it. It may be a slow slide at first, but I'm gonna have descendants that I'd like to grow up in the America I did. Where I stood and fell on my own, then got back up on my own. Do you remember the fall of communism? Why did it fall? 'Cause it didn't work! But you say, 'socialism isn't communism!' I say, 'not yet'. Tell me something, if this health care bill was so good then why aren't the people who are forcing it on us (don't give me the public option thing, I don't buy it) voting it onto themselves? They aren't you know! Why isn't what's good for the gander good for the goose?

I don't worry about Mr Hutcherson either, I think he means well most of the time but the question is how serious do you take his opinion towards Rush?

Depends on how old you are, for many, American life of youth was an America of apartheid. Do you really think we'll look back at Obama's 4-8 years and say, those were the last days of capitalism?

I agree, the politicians who vote against health care reform should be willing to sign up for the least best option that the general public has. So when a dem or rep votes against reform, they're saying that they are good enough for government health care, and we're not, and we pay their salary. I thought the GOP would be sickened by this, the government having more access than the people.

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Originally posted by MrTed:

He can certainly take it, and then re dish it like he did when he learned that the president's 'thesis' was a hoax, which he warned at the outset he was checking on to see if it was true (had it been me I would've waited, but hey-it wasn't me). When I read this article, what stood out to me was the absolute indifferent attitude with which the media totally fabricated (and it's been proven!) everything they said he said! Then they 'justify' it by saying, 'well we know he thinks it!' Which was a load of feces as well!

re dish it? Are you sure? Did he apologize?

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Originally posted by daDieken:

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Originally posted by MrTed:

He can certainly take it, and then re dish it like he did when he learned that the president's 'thesis' was a hoax, which he warned at the outset he was checking on to see if it was true (had it been me I would've waited, but hey-it wasn't me). When I read this article, what stood out to me was the absolute indifferent attitude with which the media totally fabricated (and it's been proven!) everything they said he said! Then they 'justify' it by saying, 'well we know he thinks it!' Which was a load of feces as well!

re dish it? Are you sure? Did he apologize?

From what I saw no, he kept it on his site, then had a disclaimer at the very bottom of the whole article saying it was false, then proceeded to say he will just stick by what it says and call Obama whatever it was he was calling him, because everyone knew thats how he felt and thats how journalisim works now these days anyway....I got this straight from his site.

Then he crys about what people do to him. Thats why I said it was like the boy that cried wolf.


I use to listen to him a little when Clinton was in office. I hated Clinton and it was amusing to me. I didn't think I was getting a unbiased or straight shot at what was going on. Its kind of like having your own hype man in your ear telling you that what you think is right, and giving you some extra stuff to be pissed about.

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Originally posted by daDieken:

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Originally posted by MrTed:

He can certainly take it, and then re dish it like he did when he learned that the president's 'thesis' was a hoax, which he warned at the outset he was checking on to see if it was true (had it been me I would've waited, but hey-it wasn't me). When I read this article, what stood out to me was the absolute indifferent attitude with which the media totally fabricated (and it's been proven!) everything they said he said! Then they 'justify' it by saying, 'well we know he thinks it!' Which was a load of feces as well!

re dish it? Are you sure? Did he apologize?

No, and neither did the media who went rampant for a week lying about him. Tit for tat as far as I'm concerned.

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Originally posted by MrTed:

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Originally posted by daDieken:

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Originally posted by MrTed:

He can certainly take it, and then re dish it like he did when he learned that the president's 'thesis' was a hoax, which he warned at the outset he was checking on to see if it was true (had it been me I would've waited, but hey-it wasn't me). When I read this article, what stood out to me was the absolute indifferent attitude with which the media totally fabricated (and it's been proven!) everything they said he said! Then they 'justify' it by saying, 'well we know he thinks it!' Which was a load of feces as well!

re dish it? Are you sure? Did he apologize?

No, and neither did the media who went rampant for a week lying about him. Tit for tat as far as I'm concerned.

He's a drive-by.

The silliest thing about the conservative gameplan is that they try to frame themselves as rebels, when really their conservative views are all about keeping the status quo (keeping the rich rich and the poor poor, forcing everyone to live by Christian standards, and ruling the world by fear).

Rush is a junkie who's opinion is garbage. Who takes views from a junkie seriously?

Simple Rush got what he gives every day and nearly everytime he opens his mouth.

My question to Rush would be how do you like it??

The free market worked again. Rush wanted the team but the marketplace decided they didn't want him. I thought this free market principles was what he was all about.