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Nothing scientific about this at all. I'm sorry. I really wanted you to link me to a credible/unbiased scientific document, that would change my viewpoint, but unfortunately that did not occur. Evolution may indeed be a theory, but it's a theory grounded in science. Creationism expects you to take a story, handed down over thousands of generations, as fact. Ever played the game "telephone"? See where I'm going with this? |
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http://www.pathlights.com/ce_encyclopedia/Encyclopedia/21soc04.htm
Evolution is just as much a faith as any other 'god based' religion. Sorry it took so long to get back to you, only one computer hooked up to the net, and one of my boys jumped on it when I wasn't looking. google this man: Jack Cuozzo, or his book buried alive. I'm not going into it now, I've read it and it's completely dam*ing (don't know if that will get me suspended or not) of the theory of evolution. I'll have to do more digging to find an 'unbiased' report of the statistics. I learned of this particular discipline of science from 'christian apologists' I'll admit, but person who was rattling off all these numbers made the statement that he didn't get these figures from a religious book but a physics book. That was years ago. I didn't need that to convince me as I already was (but I'm sure you knew that) but it is proof. Beyond that, who would make this up? If there weren't something there, I don't think that man would put something there to cause himself all this trouble. I know I wouldn't have. My two cents... Ted |
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Sorry MRTed, but those quotes are all woefully out of date "We have no proof (1960)," taken out of context, or actually quotes saying evolution is a faith by members of the Intelligent Design or New Age movements.
And if you insist that all of science must be provable, then enjoy a life without medicine or electricity. After a certain point, all theories have propositions and fundamental assumptions. Even physics. It is the method that makes science, not the complete absense of unknowables or assertions. |
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Regardless, evolution has no more evidence now
than when it began. It hasn't been proven by the fossil record where Darwin said it would be. When the scientist (forget his name) who discovered DNA came to the conclusion that it was too complex to have happened by chance. Guy still couldn't accept 'creation' so he coined the term pan spermia, the theory that aliens sent the building blocks of life here to begin evolution. The math that makes evolution statistically impossible is certainly a genuine scientific method also. Science agrees that anything beyond 1 in ten to the fiftieth power (still pretty slim numbers I know) won't happen. Not that it 'can't' happen but the odds are almost guaranteed certain that it won't. Being so late I will get the link to the odds of even the smallest part of you being so far out of the realm of possibility happening through chance tomorrow. Good Night. My two cents... Ted |
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You've gone through a lot of effort to disprove what science accepts, yet you want me to believe I will burn in eternity for disagreeing. Where's the research to prove that theory? |
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That site is a anti-evolution site and yes the quotes are very old.
You are picking a battle you cannot win, if your basis in the end is which one has more 'proof' in a side by side comparison. In the end you will have to fall back on 'faith', which is fine. My ptoblems with religion are that they are not logical at all. If god made us, then he did a bad job, or did a bad job on purpose... Its a catch 22. If we are here to prove ourselves worthy for heaven, then what does a born dead infant prove, he got off pretty easy if he was to just test others faith... I have not closed the door on the possibility of a higher being or such, but I have pretty much on it being a current religion we worship. I could get links, etc...But in the end are you going to change your mind? No. Are those that don't believe? No. I don't care what people believe, and I think most posters that share the view don't. We just don't want someone to push it on to us. |
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I only trust the part of the bible that Jesus wrote...  I don't follow the bible and I do not believe in evolution... But I gotta say all my life I've had "other's" views of evolution crammed down my throat in the name of "science". How many times has mainstream science been wrong? I like science and I understand and appreciate it's accomplishments but I feel some use it as a tool to coerce and "scare" just like some use religion... Clay Mathews III in the 3rd - 5th round! |
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weak !!! very weak !!!!!!!!!
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Is that not hypocrisy? Your belief system is that we evolved...so schools must teach evelution only. How is that not one groups beleife system influencing the countries policies? The fact is every person has a beliefe system. There is one God, there is many gods, there is no god. Based on these beliefe systems they formulate the way they see the world and how it should run. So it is impossible to seperate a persons beleifs from there politics. Rather it is from a secular world view or one of many religious world views. Why is it ok for one world view to effect policy and not the other. No matter what one group will feel justified while the other will feel allienated. We are no different in that reality. One will be happy and the other offended. So to say a persons beleifs should not effect there voting or that it should not effect the way they do their job is ridiculous. Of course it will on both sides...athiest, satanist, budhist, or christian. It is imposible for it to not effect it either way. |
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No such document exists. All have biased for or against. Unless a person came here that has never heard of evolution or inteligent design and was completely kept segregated from society and all known literature was to do research (without reading anyones elses findings information or theories) there will be biased. Even in that scenerio there would be the biased of his or her view of god. |
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there is ONLY one god in AMERICA.....its the mighty DOLLAR
me me me me me |
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Are you saying then that you do not believe anything that is in the Bible? You know, because Jesus did not write any of the Bible, his disciples wrote the books of the Bible. Peace |
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Well eventually our throats will adapt to the cramming and change into more receptive organisms for cramming.  Personally I haven't experienced the evolution cramming. On the contrary, if you want to talk about cramming, I would say between evolution and the bible, the bible has been involved in much more cramming. Now if you want to talk about the evolution of the bible, that might be interesting. |
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