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Who would have ever imagined that there could possibly be anything more obnoxious and annoying than a cicadian Bengals fan, removing and stashing his Colts jersey, coming out in public for the first time in a decade and chanting "Who Dey?" like a socially arrested [edited name calling]?
I can remember my snot nosed days and how clever and proud of myself I was when I first continued counting with the fingers on my second hand. Steelers fans who do it are far less cute than when a four year old does it. So how is a Lombardi Trophy in Pittsburgh worth more than a championship that Vince Lombardi brought home to Green Bay? So how is a Lombardi Trophy in Pittsburgh worth more than a championship season when the Cleveland Browns had to beat Vince Lombardi to win it? Steelers don't count those championships because Steelers don't have any of those championships to count. Interesting fact: You can also use those fingers on your second hand to count the decades of effort Pittsburgh has been trying just to catch up. Merger or no merger, the Cleveland Browns and the Pittsburgh Steelers have always played in the same league and Cleveland has 8 league championships. Just because the name of the championship game was changed to "Superbowl" doesn't mean that it isn't football anymore. Steelers fans want those Lombardi trophies but then act all stupid as if they don't even know who Lombardi was. Yoo-Hooo... Steeler Nation! Vince Lombardi and everybody else used to kick the living snot out of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Somehow, in the minds of Steelers fans, a circular logic has evolved. Modell's move to Baltimore evaporated Cleveland's claim to any pride when comparing to Pittsburgh. How can anybody argue with that bull? Should we say, "Denial ain't just a river in Russia"? I don't care if Pittsburgh puts Josh Cribbs returning punts all the way from the moon! The point is moot. Face the facts. Cleveland is always better than Pittsburgh. Cleveland has always been better than Pittsburgh. Cleveland will always be better than Pittsburgh. A confronted Steelers fan's retreat into adding hockey and baseball championships in an effort to beat Cleveland's score of 8 is laughable proof of how Pittsburgh stinks... and they know it! If the Browns have lousy seasons, that should only add to your foolish shame that you are still behind. No championships in Cleveland for 50 years and you still can't catch up? Maybe if Cleveland goes 75 or a hundred years with no Superbowl, then the Steelers will get the time they need to match us. It is nobody in Cleveland's fault if it took the extra padded protection of new helmets for the [edited name calling] in Pitt to suddenly realize that the Steelers were not supposed to be a soccer team. Green Bay rules. Cleveland rocks. The Pittsburgh Steelers and the Steeler Nation fans approach being the lowest common denominators in the NFL because they selfishly and cowardly hide behind the standard that would be acceptable for the expansion teams and because they boast in terms of delusions of grandeur. Note: I'm trying to not break rules. I don't listen to Rome, so if I sound like a wannabe, then maybe Rome has common sense. This message has been edited. Last edited by: techclerk, |
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you need to check your facts before you post. even vambo can tell you steelers and browns have not always played in the same league. the browns have 4 aafl championships before joining the nfl. they have 4 nfl championships non of which were won against lombardi's packers. you don't even know your own team's history as well as one of us lowly steeler fans. so your next attempt at smack you better do your homework.
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this one of yours vambo |
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Trainee?
  What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. Cool Hand Luke |
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Okay, I'll recheck my facts. I saw one page that said Lombardi was coaching in 1964 and Cleveland won the championship against the Colts, but maybe I'm getting all this info from unreliable sources. I said we had a "championship season" not that we beat Lombardi in the championship.
I'm happy to recheck everything, because it just keeps getting better the more I look and because Green Bay's got it covered, anyway. |
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So you didn't already know these "facts" and had to look them up from an unreliable source? Kinda sounds like a bandwagoner to me...  |
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Here are a couple to verify your facts if you like, click links below... Profootball Hall of Fame Sports Ecycleopidia What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. Cool Hand Luke |
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Huh! I'm a bandwagoner? In this season? Are you kidding me?
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http://www.nflteamhistory.com/...ionship_history.html
Here is where I saw Cleveland had 8 league championships. Is this wrong? So I mistakenly assumed the Steelers were in the league during these seasons? I'm also reading here "The Pittsburgh Steelers were founded by Arthur J. Rooney on July 8, 1933." They changed name to the Steelers in 1940 What league were they in? |
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The Cleveland Browns were born in 1944 when Cleveland businessman Arthur B. McBride acquired a franchise in the new All-America Football Conference that would begin play in 1946. The AAFC-NFL settlement called for the Browns, San Francisco 49ers and Baltimore Colts to join the NFL. Many NFL diehards, still not convinced the Browns were for real, expected Cleveland to fail badly when they played against the established NFL teams. But the Browns quickly proved their domination was no fluke by opening the 1950 season with a stunning 35-10 victory over the defending NFL champion Philadelphia Eagles. Cleveland then won the NFL Eastern Conference championship for six straight years from 1950 to 1955 and NFL titles in 1950, 1954 and 1955. The Browns won another divisional title in 1957, a year that saw the great running back from Syracuse, Jim Brown, join the team. In his nine-season career, Jim Brown rushed for 12,312 yards, a lifetime record that stood for more than 20 years. The Paul Brown era ended after the 1962 season and he was replaced by a former assistant, Blanton Collier. Collier gave the Browns their last NFL championship in 1964, when they defeated the Baltimore Colts, 27-0. http://www.profootballhof.com/...am/cleveland-browns/ The Pittsburgh Steelers were founded by Arthur J. Rooney on July 8, 1933. Now the seventh-oldest franchise in the NFL, the Pittsburgh team was known as the Pirates until 1940. The Steelers struggled for their first 40 years without winning a championship of any kind until they won the AFC Central division title in 1972. Two years later, the entire sports world cheered when Art Rooney, one of world's most popular sports figures, received the Vince Lombardi Trophy after the Steelers' victory in Super Bowl IX. http://www.profootballhof.com/...pittsburgh-steelers/ What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. Cool Hand Luke |
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Well, crud. That seems to knock the Browns down from 8 to 5 because we can only count from 1950 on? That really pops my bubble.
Good thing Green Bay has it covered, or I'd feel like a jacka** for even saying anything. So Cleveland is closer to being considered an expansion team than the Steelers are. You can see some legitimacy in my point of view that it is a false standard for Steelers to only count the superbowls. |
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So could all 8 championships for Cleveland be counted against the Colts and the 49ers? I'm seeing 3 different totals from 3 different sources, so it still doesn't add up.
You can see the source of some of my confusion. The NFL merger was 1970 but it looks like it was unofficially started in 1950? I'm reading that perhaps the NFL as it is known today would have been considered a monopoly in those days so it took years of lobbying Congress to get it all approved and legal. But these teams still played eachother before the organizational merger. So when I saw the Steelers playing the Browns before 1970, I didn't know it started years before and I thought they were in the same league before the merger. And it looks to me like vincelombardi.com says he was coaching the Packers from 1958 to 1967, and that overlaps one of the Cleveland championships. How is 1964 not a "Lombardi?" Hey... it's the Steelers fans who ask me how many Lombardis does Cleveland have! Don't act as if I'm the antogonist here. 1946 (AAFC) 1947 (AAFC) 1948 (AAFC) 1949 (AAFC) These don't count 1950 (NFL) 1954 (NFL) 1955 (NFL) 1956 (NFL) 1964 (NFL) These do count. Or is something still wrong in this list? If not, then Cleveland can still reach 7 before Pittsburgh does. This message has been edited. Last edited by: techclerk, |
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Aaawwww...another envious clownfan who can't take it any more. Because of the pathetic existance of the clowns, and the tremendous success of the Steelers, you go back to a time to which you had no part of and use it as "smack". Lame.
Your "championships" are meaningless and amount to nothing but a pile of garbage, and FYI, it's not just Steeler fans who could care less, it's all fans and the media...you only target Steeler fans because your main "rival" has got 6 Lombardis and you have O. Ask a Raven, Bears or Tampa Bay fan if they would trade their 1 Lombardi for your 8 garbage "championships" to which the NFL doesn't recognize half of them anyway. Let me know when the media starts talking "NFL Championship" history when Super Bowl time comes, or better yet when the Steelers come to Cleveland and are beating you arses again, you should play re-runs on the scoreboard of Jim Clown running over slow white guys so we can be in awe. That'll put us in our place.  Let it go clown fan, your dumb "championship" was 46 years ago. What are you or your decendants gonna say 50yrs. from now when the browns still suck..."Oh yeah Steeler fan, well we were good in the 1950's, and you weren't nya nya." I am old enough that in my lifetime I have enjoyed witnessing 11 Pittsburgh championships, had I been a Clevelander it would be 0....you poor pathetic souls. For me, and for most outside of cleveland, Pittsburgh has always been greater than cleveland, and not just in sports. Like the crap that your team is named after, you stink, always did stink, and always will stink. Furthermore, your trophy is to damn ugly for anyone to want or to care about...another reason to want to rather have 1 Lombardi than 8 of those.   |
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this is where you said you beat lombardi not me tech |
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in '65 vince did beat you guys for the nfl championship lol
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So you come on to this board, where Cleveland Browns fans talk Browns football and start yapping about "your" six championship trophies as if you had anything to do with it? You call people here pathetic because they stick with a team that doesnt win every year? Would you stick with the steelers if they hadnt been good in 20 years? Or would you just have been a Patriots or Cowboys fan? You sir are the pathetic one for insulting REAL fans for loving their team... actually i will take that back, i dont wanna call you pathetic. youre probably just some 14 year old kid who doesnt really know any batter because he got that fine pittsburgh education |
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you leave our batters in pittsburgh alone lol
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Do you think before you speak or do you just like hearing the sound of your own voice?? Of course I'm going to say you should ask a Green Bay fan the same question. Thank you for providing me with another example of how Steelers hide behind the standard that would be acceptable for an expansion team. You guys love to brag about how you are the one of the oldest franchises but it just makes you look foolish when one considers how little you accomplished with so many seasons under your belts. 6 Lombardis in Cinci would be so much stronger than yours in Pitt. |
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The winner of any championship beats everybody else who competed in that season. Lombardi was coaching that year. That is intuitive, and if I'm remembering right, Cleveland is the only team to win the championship when Lombardi was coaching Green Bay, but I'll have to look. And to be fair, I vaguely remember that one of his players got severely injured or else the Packers would have likely run everybody over that year, too. Lombardi was truly awesome. It would be fun to learn more about him. |
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11 Sun November 22 box W Pittsburgh Steelers @ New York Giants 44 17 429 2 305 4
11 Sun November 22 box T Minnesota Vikings @ Detroit Lions 23 23 230 3 289 6 11 Sun November 22 box W Washington Redskins Dallas Cowboys 28 16 366 3 196 5 11 Sun November 22 box W St. Louis Cardinals @ Philadelphia Eagles 38 13 460 2 343 7 11 Sun November 22 box W Baltimore Colts @ Los Angeles Rams 24 7 285 0 131 0 11 Sun November 22 box W Green Bay Packers Cleveland Browns 28 21 285 0 302 4 11 Sun November 22 box W Chicago Bears San Francisco 49ers 23 21 370 0 323 2 Week Day Date Winner/tie Loser/tie PtsW PtsL you didn't beat greenbay that year you never beat lombardi to win a championship you need to check your facts before you post |
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No, I come to the smack board to talk smack. That's what it's there for silly. Of course I had nothing to do with the mighty Steelers Super Bowls. If you had any intellect you would understand my point...I got to witness, and cheer for a winner, while all you guys can do is talk about another era, because all you have known in your lifetime is losing.
A little self concious are we? Never called you pathetic because you stick with your team, you're pathetic for other obvious reasons...like using the 1956 browns in a lame attempt to smack today's Steeler fan. Try visiting a nursing home and look for an old Steeler fan and smack him...enjoy drinking toilet water?..walking around barking while wearing dog masks is pretty pathetic too.
Wooo education smack! Now that was cutting edge! |
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If we spill any water from the toilet we can always grab a T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E T-O-W-E-L!!!! Nothing instills fear in opponents like a piece of absorbent cloth or paper used for wiping or drying. Every time the Stoolers come to town I have nightmares about those towelS, twisting and spinning and spinning and twisting. OOOH! STOP TERRIBLE TOWEL - SSSSSTO-O-O-O-O-O-P-P-P!!!! |
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you pick your first post to dis our sacred and for a good cause towel ask the titans how that worked out for them or the bengals houshmenzada. fear the curseof the terrible towel
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 What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. Cool Hand Luke |
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You delusions of granduer are so comical. The Steelers have accomplished what the Clowns could only dream of. Aside from being the winningest franchise since the NFL merger in 1970, they are are the 8th winningest INCLUDING their first 40yrs. From 1970 to 2009 the amazing Steelers have only 9 losing seasons, while your bunch of bozos have only amassed 13 WINNING seasons during that time frame. So what have your clowns accomplished the last 40 yrs.... other than proving year in and year out that they are an embarrasing joke? You see clownfan, what your team did before most of us were alive is irrelevant....it's not Steeler fans who need to go to games with bags on their heads.  This message has been edited. Last edited by: Woodley56, |
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This isn't "Al Gore really won the election." This is football. Everything is all settled when the final second of the championship is gone, unless awfull officiating was affecting the score. Have some respect for your championships you are so proud to have. Do you really not get it? When you guys won the last Superbowl, you beat every team. Not because you played every team, but because every team agreed to compete at the beginning of the season. A friendly suggestion would be that you try watching Ninja Warrior. It is unusual to America in one way because another competitor's defeat has no affect on your own personal performance. An unfriendly suggestion would be for you to forget your Stairway to Seven and worry about completing the 12 steps. You may think I am talking about AA and I would welcome that misunderstanding, but also I think Green Bay has 12 championships. I'm too lazy to look it up myself and you are so good at it. I think it would do you more good to see for yourself in another futile effort to prove whatever. And I wonder why Pittsburgh was playing in this season you detailed if they weren't competeting for the championship? This message has been edited. Last edited by: techclerk, |
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I swear, talking to you Steelers fans is like talking to a 30 year old late bloomer who thinks he is the first man alive to ever reach puberty.
If you want to get absurd and consider teams trading championships, there are possibilities that could devalue the superbowls and still leave Green Bay in the lead. For example, what if Green Bay traded a Superbowl for 1950? I love you guys because you are so fun to hate. But now I'm getting bored with this one. I enjoyed meeting you guys, honestly. This message has been edited. Last edited by: techclerk, |
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come back when you can support your smack with facts. so what your saying is we didn't really lose to philly, new york, indy, and tennesee last year; right
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  What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. Cool Hand Luke |
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did i scare him away
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You choose to support your team by coming on to OUR website and disrespecting OUR players and OUR fans and OUR dawg pound and our history and you have the audacity to believe that I give a danm about your terrible toilet paper. I think you do a good job with your posts BillyMo but choose your battles wisely. |
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Never fails. Pssssst. Danny Boy. When you have what is called a "SMACK" board, you are essentially inviting opposing fans to disrespect YOUR team, YOUR stupid dogpound, YOUR history, YOUR city, and YOUR fans, and you're supposed to return the smack... ..although it's an enigma why you people even have a "smack" board...you have no smack. Giving a clown fan a smack board is like giving a soldier a gun without bullets. ...and no you're not soljas either all you Winslow wannabes. |
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Give me your tired, your stupid, your befuddled Steeler fans yearning to breathe free. |
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Case in point...you have no smack. |
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Explains why the Steeler's site doesn't have a SMACK BOARD!! What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. Cool Hand Luke |
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i try to be respectful but this is all fun for me i take on all battles danny unless things hit a personal level or inappropriate subject matter call it mindles entertainment
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Well that explains woodey56 anyways! What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. Cool Hand Luke |
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I'll give you two more balls to try again, come up with something better and you may win a kewpie doll. But you are a Steeler fan, so best case scenario is you will end up being an idiot with a kewpie doll...which puts you a kewpie doll up on all the other Pittsburgh fans! |
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Since I don't know what kewpie doll is, and you are no doubt the expert. Please explain. |
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