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Thank you Phil Savage for finding another steal! imo, we have to give some credit to our seasoned veteran McGinest, probably another reason why he is coming along so fast
unfortunately, we don't have a lot of the (McGinest type) veterans who can coach up young players, like a majority of the NFL teams from all of our years of rebuilding. In contrast, I watched a inside training camp report with the enemy steelers and why Tomlin was able to succeed so well last year. Their players like hines ward, james farrior, spoke about how steelers veterans coached them up when they arrived, and they enjoy coaching up the rookies how to play the steelers way, including getting after them during practice and during games. With the Browns lack of continuity, we just don't have the same ability, but luckily we a few guys like JJ (who we miss now) and McGinest helping along the way. Go Browns ------------------------------ Bring on the rookies again! We don't need proven winners like Bill Parcells or Mike Shanahan |
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Way to go Alex!!
I'll admit I was wrong on this one. No way did I think a guy like this could have such an immediate impact. Hells yeah! -Two years, two Pro Bowls- |
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actually phil savage sucks!!! Savage said that the 7th was a throw-away pick so he let his scouts decide it.
one of his scouts said he would bet his career on Hall so Savage took him, fortunately the dude deserves a raise !! |
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Care to provide some proof in the form of a link or a source? -Two years, two Pro Bowls- |
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I just hope Hall doesn't get stuck on the bench when McGinest comes back. Hall doesn't have McGinest's experience, and he won't get it on the sideline. His athleticism can make up a big part of the difference though.
"I could care less about the fans and the media... I've got a job to do and my job is to catch the football." - Braylon Edwards 12/16/08 |
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More Hall notes from ESPN:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?page=hotread3/rookies
-Two years, two Pro Bowls- |
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If you recall, Savage considered that a "throw away" pick, so he was letting his scouts debate who to take. Bobby Vega, one of our college scouts is quoted as saying "I'll stake my career on Alex Hall", and thus was the reason we took him. Phil Savage did not make the pick and only scouted Hall once--at the behest of Vega who was so impressed with Hall's phsyicality. go ask bobby or the cleveland writers covering the draft |
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This is why you must provide a link. Cleary your memory of "stake my career" and "throw away pick" nonsense is WAY off. That's no surprise to me because your short time here has proven your mistaken more than not. He said I'll put my "reputation" on Hall.
link Browns General Manager Phil Savage will never forget the moment he became convinced that little-known rookie linebacker Alex Hall was going to become a longtime NFL player. It was the Wednesday before the NFL draft, when most GMs are watching last-minute film and putting the finishing touches on their draft boards. But Savage, without any picks in the first three rounds, had extra time on his hands, so he flew to Maryland to work out a lanky defensive end that scout Bobby Vega felt could become a good outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme. Savage showed up for the workout at a community college near Hall's hometown of Glenarden, Md., toting a bag stuffed with cones and a football. The field was clumpy and unmarked, but it would have to do. To get Hall warmed up, Savage asked him to run through the cones and accelerate at the end. Problem was, he didn't have any markers to start and end the drill. So, he dropped the bag at the beginning and the ball at the end. "I said, 'When you get to the last cone, just accelerate through the ball,' " recalled Savage. As instructed, Hall chopped through the cones and sped up at the end, but instead of blowing past the ball, he reached down and scooped it up like an eagle swooping down for a fish. "I kind of chuckled to myself and said, 'Hey, Alex, you didn't have to pick up the ball, but that was pretty good.' " Savage put Hall through 30 more minutes of linebacker drills, but he had already gotten what he came for. "I was like, 'This kid is 6-5, he's 255, he runs fast, he's got 11-inch hands,' " said Savage. "But what really stuck out in my mind was that ability to bend." Afterward, Savage told Hall, from Division II St. Augustine's in Raleigh, N.C., that he'd probably be with an NFL team in four days because he had the measurables - talent, temperament and solid background to make it in the NFL. "I told him, 'You're going to play in this league seven or eight years, and I can tell the story of how I came over and worked you out a couple of days before the draft,' " Savage said. On the second day of the draft, Savage sat on Hall until the seventh round and called him about 10 minutes before the pick. About eight to 10 teams had called in the last 30 minutes, all wanting him to be a free agent. "I said, 'You can tell them that they're wasting their time because we're getting ready to pick you in about five minutes,' " Savage recalled. "He covered up the phone and told his family, and the place erupted." In the months leading up to the draft, the Browns had their eye on three small-school pass-rushers recommended by Vega. They were Vince Redd from Liberty, Brian Smith from McNeese State and Hall. Savage made it to Liberty and McNeese, but never found his way to tiny St. Augustine's. So, he asked Vega which one of the three he liked best. "Bobby said, 'I'm going to put my reputation on Hall,' " recalled Savage. So far in camp, Hall has made Vega look like a genius. In the first week, Hall - who had 26 sacks and 51 tackles for a loss in college - burst into the backfield and intercepted a Brady Quinn pass screen pass. During Family Night, he had a would-be sack of Ken Dorsey, and in practice he's shown good speed off the edge. "The kid has come here and done a lot of nice things," said Savage. "You can't help but notice him. The fact that he's working with Kamerion Wimbley, Willie McGinest and Antwan Peek - this has been a great situation for him." With Peek (knee) out until the opener, Hall will get some reps in Peek's place behind McGinest on the left side, along with David McMillan. Until now, he's been working behind Wimbley on the right side. "Obviously the real evaluation is going to be the games, but I really feel it in my bones that this guy is a legitimate prospect," said Savage. "Kamerion was the 13th pick in the draft and Alex was 231st. You can make a case that they should've been a lot closer. Based off what he's done thus far, Hall probably could've been a mid-round pick." Hall is used to being overlooked. He wasn't recruited as a 190-pounder coming out of Maryland's C.H. Flowers High School, where he was known more for basketball. It wasn't until a recruiting fair at a church that St. Augustine's coach Michael Costa tabbed him to help the school get its 2-year-old program off the ground. Red-shirted as a tight end, he then switched to defensive end, where he ranked in the top 20 in the nation in tackles for loss each of his last three years. "Hall is football player and a really good one," said Costa, who attended practice Thursday along with three of his assistants. "He's got determination, he's very competitive, and he'll give you everything he has. He's also a very good young man." Hall graduated with a history degree and is polite, respectful and quiet. He acknowledges he has a ways to go, but Savage has been impressed with his adjustment to the two-point stance, where he's learning to jam tight ends, drop into the flat and read the back's release. "It's all out in front of him," said Savage. "To what level he can get this year, I don't know, but he's got good talent and we're really excited about him." To reach this Plain Dealer reporter: -Two years, two Pro Bowls- |
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Hall is very impressive-the real deal, not a project. He's our most productive pass rusher.
Getting the injury behind Rucker will help our receiving corps. Beau who? |
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Score one for BpG
"I could care less about the fans and the media... I've got a job to do and my job is to catch the football." - Braylon Edwards 12/16/08 |
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what the hell are u talking about...it s exactly how i said it |
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Is it?
-Two years, two Pro Bowls- |
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pure semantics my dear watson |
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Yea man Hall is the truth so far.Man i feel bad for Mcmillan it seems like he's been here for ever and its always someone to come and take his chance.LOL.Well who cares Hall is a stud so far man i love the guy.
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daDawga... you got pwned! Sounds like Savage had a lot to do with Hall getting drafted and does deserve credit for listening to his scouts and going out to work Hall out prior to the draft.
I live in the Land of the Gators... ugh |
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You might want to look up the definition of "semantics". You said Savage sucks,that he thought of the seventh as a throwaway and let his scouts make the pick. You were incorrect. Savage worked Hall out,took Vega's opinion under advisement and made the pick. Calling out Savage for mistakes is fine,but Hall isn't one of them man. -------------------------------- |
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PWNED!!!
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------------------------------ Bring on the rookies again! We don't need proven winners like Bill Parcells or Mike Shanahan |
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man can i attack the education system in the US....
its clear savage is taking credit from others |
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