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Originally posted by Versatile Dawg:
Wrong on every account.

Let me try your strategy.

Anyone who thinks Brady Quinn, who was outperformed by DA in TC and does not have the support of the coaching staff and players, will play better than DA is either related to Brady or wants to be.

How about this one: Anyone who believes that DA was the reason we lost this last game in particular and was the reason we lost most of our games is either been beaten up by DA or had their girlfriend stolen by DA.

Man............isn't this fun? Gotta love rational posting.

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Originally posted by BpG:
I feel sorry for you.

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You need to get over your man crush on DA and putting a spin on DA's poor season. The stats don't lie.

Now that's being rational.

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Let me hear how Brady could have won this game?

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Originally posted by Versatile Dawg:
The name is Vers.

And you are confusing the points. I am maintaining that the team made DA the scapegoat because they succumbed to fan pressure. The same ignorant pressure that the Brat Pack has been applying all year long. The last game is a great example of that. DA did not lose that game. Not even close.

As far as your questions..........No to both, but I am not satisfied that he isn't our franchise qb and that BQ is, either. DA should have gotten the entire year. Period.

If he goes somewhere else and plays well, which is very possible and BQ isn't all that......what then?

The fans and media always overreacts. It's up to the professionals to not succumb to the intense pressure the two aforementioned provide. Once again, the Browns failed at being professional.

At least you all are happy though. For now.

Watch the heads start to roll soon.

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Originally posted by BpG:
The Browns organization loses again. Putting up the white flag again, another year of looking forward to the draft and I am NOT feeling this sudden giddy joy of “Yaaaayy Brady Quinn”. I am disgusted with this organization, another poor decision. Another poor season.

They did the right thing keeping Derek Anderson as the QB all last year. Brady Quinn needed to be benched after holding out and what better way to get him prepared than to sit him an entire season and spring training. I was totally on board. Then the offseason started, we have people wanting Derek Anderson. Some said that we should get a first round pick for hi and take it, hands down. The organization felt otherwise and signed him to a deal, I was not on board with this move. It appeared Dallas wanted to give us their first and third, what they did with him, who cares. I was on board with THAT decision I lobbied anyone who would listen for this plan, it didn’t happen.

So we start the season with the “Derek Anderson is our guy” statement. Half way through the season we change our mind and out the guy we just gave a brand new contract on the bench. The sad part about all of this is that is was DA who played the murderers row of tough defenses to start the season. Dallas, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Bengals (they beat Jacksonville), Giants, Redskins, Jacksonville, Baltimore, that is a brutal schedule.

I do not like the decision to start Brady one bit, if anything the Browns organization loses again. We eat salary for DA and we miss out on SOMETHING in the form of draft picks for him. Unless Phil makes some crazy move to trade DA and someone else this is going to look like wasted draft picks to me. I will concede that it doesn’t mean the drafts picks wouldn’t have been busts anyway.

The problem that I have with is that 1. We lead the league in drops, if we go to middle of the pack in drops this might be a totally different season. If we get into the bottom 10 of drops, this season is looking GREAT. Now that is JMO but I think we win at least 2 maybe 3 more games. I am sorry, I don’t care that falls on the coaching staff, not DA. You have to stop the bleeding at some point with the drops, and then add in the penalties and the coaching staff looks horrendous. I don’t know of another coach in the league that could keep his cool after so many unforced penalties.

Now we get to see Quinn, primetime in front of the nation with 4 days to prepare. It just feels like a rushed decision for me. Like someone from the top said enough is enough we need to see what Quinn can do. Let’s not act like Derek Anderson played all that bad against Baltimore, he played much much worse in Washington. You think, ok he didn’t get benched then, so no way he gets benched after this performance going on a 4 day week. Wrong, they start him, it sounds fishy to me.

So now we are starting Brady Quinn, I can’t say I disagree with the decision, we need to know what he can do since the season is basically over barring some monumental collapse of Baltimore and Pittpuke. I do think this guy is our future and he would be looking pretty nice right now if we had those DA picks to support him. This team is too young, immature and inexperienced to win on the big stage anyway so we better at least fix our QB position before we can contend.
The Browns lose again because we aren’t going to sniff the playoffs this season as BQ will be a “rookie” this year since DA was a “rookie” last year. You know the drill when you have two QB’s you have none. We can’t turn back now, we can’t BQ is the guy from here on out. You think Derek will stay after the fans chanted Brady at him. So when the fans are asking for DA again because BE drops passes like it’s no tomorrow the fans will loose again. All I gotta say is that we can never put DA back in there or we are in for another long decade of Browns football. The mishandling of the DA situation might end up costing a Savage a job if Quinn doesn’t pan out.

We have a LOT riding on a QB from Notre Dame, who didn’t play well against top competition. Granted he has had a year to sit and was the “most NFL ready” QB in the draft. Jamarcus Russell went ahead of him and he sucks. Joe Thomas was the right pick and while he has struggled a small amount this year compared to last (look at the competition) but he has only been in the league two year. So had Brady, they are both going to struggle at times, they will give us the best chance to win in the long run I do believe, but seeing is believing.

People will have big time interest in the up coming draft as we finally have a first round pick and hopes, expectations and “superbowl chants” maybe even. What scares me is that we might be in the same position next year as we are this year with Anderson with Quinn. I feel it is make or break for the Browns now, either we win with Quinn or we are in QB mediocrity forever. Oh well, lets put all our hopes into the back…..again. :Sigh:

Anyone who is talking about playoffs is fooling themselves. Unless BQ is Peyton Manning or Dan Marino forget about. So the fans lose again because the fans induce a premature decision. This isn’t something the fans should have any say in and it upsets me. Now I have heard things about this coming from over his head and it worries me even more. If RAC isn’t caling the roster shots, something is wrong and RAC is probably gone. The fans lose again trying to start over with a new coach.

This type of move also look bad on us as an organization, it does send the “What happens if I don’t play well” message. Why would players want to come here if they see us treating other players like this? You don’t change QB’s mid season and now we have almost completely deflated DA’s trade stock if we felt he wasn’t the guy. So what was the point? We lose on DA’s trade value and we throw Quinn out there. The sad part is that I think the reason they are doing it is because they think he isn’t the guy and want to find out for sure so the fans shut up when DA comes back in. Naah that would be too methodical for this organization. It is a knee jerk reaction and it reflects poorly management and on a guy I have admired so far for his handling of this situation in Phil Savage, unless it came from higher?


Let’s hope the Browns don’t lose again with Quinn.


With that said, I will be attending the game, so GO QUINN GO! I will be there for the beginning of the Brady Quinn Era! Heres to a brilliant career Brady!!!

I hope we chant Brady Brady Brady!!!!!! And not leaving at halftime!

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ARCHITECTS - "Hollow Crown" (February 10th, 2009).

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Originally posted by Versatile Dawg:

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You need to get over your man crush on DA and putting a spin on DA's poor season. The stats don't lie.

Now that's being rational.

No man crush here. I think I've made that clear about 10 times in the last two days, yet the Brat Pack keeps saying it. That's surprising. None of you have played fair from the beginning.

Now...........let me hear again how it was DA's fault that defense gave up over 400 yds in offense to freaking Baltimore. Let me hear how it was DA's faulth that Flacco had all freaking day to throw? Let me hear how Brady could have won this game? Afterall, he would have not allowed a rookie midget to gain over 150 yds like DA did.........right?

And Leon would have caught the two passes from BQ............because DA was inaccurate and threw too hard on both.......right?

Oh........and it was DA's fault that Lewis gained less than 50 yds. right? And it was DA's fault that we ran on first and second down on almost every freaking series......and were forced to pass on 3rd and 8 several times.

Yeah........the stats don't lie........legrad.

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Originally posted by Nomore:
hold ya horses on Quinn, u might get eggs on ya faces after thursday

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Originally posted by Nomore:
hold ya horses on Quinn, u might get eggs on ya faces after thursday

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Originally posted by Versatile Dawg:
Exactly.

The Rats have a terrible offense, yet they gain over 400 yds. against us.

Their backup, rookie, midget RB gains over 150 on us.

BE drops two big passes that would have at least been first downs, but everyone says that DA couldn't pick up a first down.

Lewis had less than 50 yds on a lot of carries.

Steptoe fumbles the ball away and the Rats score on the next play.

We blitz numerous times, it gets picked up, and the Rats get big plays, including a huge TD late in the game.

Yet, DA lost the game.

This entire year has been ugly and a joke. Our fans have once again influenced management. You would think that someone in power would learn that listening to the fans and media is bad business.

I took off two days of work and am going to drive 600 miles one way. I'll spend a fortune up there.....and right now......if it wasn't for me promising my son I would take him and making all the arrangements.........I don't even want to go. This team depresses me w/their constant cycle of self-destruction.

It's like watching an addict who knows it is wrong to do more crack, yet they keep turning back to it.........over and over and over.

I really wish we would get a new owner. I have been rooting for this team since the 1960s, and damn man........I want to see them win. Just one freaking time!!!