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It was amazing me that after just talking about the inordinate amount of penalties, that the Browns come out and make about 8 unforced penalties.

I'd like to bring this up to everyones attention! If we are going to rag on the coaches siting them as the reason why we have too many flags then I think Tucker our DC should be praised. We eliminated our defensive penalties. It was key.

For the guy saying Hadnot was clean and it was JoeT... Come on, watch the game! That was just silly.

BPG...shame on you. Guess what that Penalty list is WRONG. It was Steve Heiden who got the holding penalty, not Joe Thomas - that was a Misprint/typo/I don't know what but Joe T didn't have the hold 100% it was Heiden and anounced Heiden and shown on the replay Heiden.

JMHGame day facts!

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It was amazing me that after just talking about the inordinate amount of penalties, that the Browns come out and make about 8 unforced penalties.

I'd like to bring this up to everyones attention! If we are going to rag on the coaches siting them as the reason why we have too many flags then I think Tucker our DC should be praised. We eliminated our defensive penalties. It was key.

For the guy saying Hadnot was clean and it was JoeT... Come on, watch the game! That was just silly.

BPG...shame on you. Guess what that Penalty list is WRONG. It was Steve Heiden who got the holding penalty, not Joe Thomas - that was a Misprint/typo/I don't know what but Joe T didn't have the hold 100% it was Heiden and anounced Heiden and shown on the replay Heiden.

JMHGame day facts!

You know what, I usually record all the games, but the woman had a TON of Rachel Zoë garbage on DVR and she was traveling for work in Florida so I didn't know what I could delete. So I said "ah what the hell" and didn't tape it.

I am seriously regretting the decision to not deleted Rachel Zoë....next time.....SHE GONE!!!!

The point is I didn't get to watch it again....go figure I watch the crappy games twice and don't record the best game in 10 friggin years.

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The point is I didn't get to watch it again....go figure I watch the crappy games twice and don't record the best game in 10 friggin years.

don't worry I couldn't record it either.

DA yet gain sucked so bad it was scary

We need to Bench DA! Need to remind the players we are here to win games. TYhey shook it up last year with the Frye trade. Got their focus up. Oh Yea Edwards needs to shut up. He hasn't done anything yet. The teams is 2 and 4 shut up and play. Act like you have done it before. Be pro's! He got got caught last week against the giants is he losing a step already?

DA can't hit 1/2 his passes. He has a nice deep ball which he for whatever reason he's not throwing much. Touch passes he can't do! Even the best receivers will drop bullet passes fired at point blank range! What's up with Vickers during the game??? Anyone?? Maybe mad at DA for bad play?

Real Reason we are losing in order:

#1 (by a mile): Derek Anderson. I thought he was back after a fantastic NY Giants game but he had NOTHING against the Skins. Our D played VERY WELL and our offense was pathetic. Throws weren't accurate PERIOD. I just don't think he hasn't the mental toughness for the job.

#2 Coaching. Mainly Romeo but I also blame Chud this week. What happened to the inventive play calling from the Giants game. All I saw yesterday was Run it up the gut (and gain 1, maybe 2 yards). We need to EXPAND our running game. Why oh why did Jerome Harrison only touch the ball 3 times? TERRIBLE. Romeo... well, we all know his time management is one of if not THE worst in the NFL.

#3 Braylon.... I have no idea what has happened to him but we need him back. I don't think he is a one year wonder.... he's just off...

Anyway, I'm annoyed. I want to see Quinn. Phil needs to force this issue... Romeo CLEARLY won't do it himself.

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Originally posted by kalphoto3:
Real Reason we are losing in order:

#1 (by a mile): Derek Anderson. I thought he was back after a fantastic NY Giants game but he had NOTHING against the Skins. Our D played VERY WELL and our offense was pathetic. Throws weren't accurate PERIOD. I just don't think he hasn't the mental toughness for the job.

#2 Coaching. Mainly Romeo but I also blame Chud this week. What happened to the inventive play calling from the Giants game. All I saw yesterday was Run it up the gut (and gain 1, maybe 2 yards). We need to EXPAND our running game. Why oh why did Jerome Harrison only touch the ball 3 times? TERRIBLE. Romeo... well, we all know his time management is one of if not THE worst in the NFL.

#3 Braylon.... I have no idea what has happened to him but we need him back. I don't think he is a one year wonder.... he's just off...

Anyway, I'm annoyed. I want to see Quinn. Phil needs to force this issue... Romeo CLEARLY won't do it himself.

Romeo needs to go Period!

I agree with ALOT of what vesitile has to say EXCEPT Shaun Rogers. I live up here in near Detroit and saw what he did the last few years. His heart is in it and he HAS been a force. I blame more of the problems on A. Davis and Watching De'Quell getting man handled. There is little pressure coming form the edges as well. I also do not think the corners are playig all that badly when we are in man2man.

Braylon and Kellen need to turn it around or hit the streets. They are even making it difficult to trade them. Immature brats. They might as well be fair weather fans.

And how can you expect RAC to be tougher? He is like a big overstuffed teddy bear. LOL

PS- it was easier when I was accustomed to losing rather then getting our hopes up just to take a big dump.

Its all DA. I hate to blame one guy, but come on. We've blamed everyone and everything for years. The fact is, poor qb play will make any team sorry. Whenever he plays good, which is very very seldom (about 1 out of every 6 games) its a blowout, even without Winlsow. Heck, even when he plays sorry (which is 5 out of 6 games) we still have a chance to win. The reason our record is not like last year is because we're not getting kick and punt returns past the 50 everytime. It's all that one position, I know it. QB is the most important position in all of team sports, like it or not. BE has dropped alot, but he'll still make plays eventually if the qb plays better and stops locking on to him so safties can blow him up. Ala Winslow and Cribbs. I'd be scared as heck if DA threw a slant to me across the middle while eyeballing me the whole time, play after play.

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Originally posted by kalphoto3:
Real Reason we are losing in order:

#1 (by a mile): Derek Anderson. I thought he was back after a fantastic NY Giants game but he had NOTHING against the Skins. Our D played VERY WELL and our offense was pathetic. Throws weren't accurate PERIOD. I just don't think he hasn't the mental toughness for the job.

#2 Coaching. Mainly Romeo but I also blame Chud this week. What happened to the inventive play calling from the Giants game. All I saw yesterday was Run it up the gut (and gain 1, maybe 2 yards). We need to EXPAND our running game. Why oh why did Jerome Harrison only touch the ball 3 times? TERRIBLE. Romeo... well, we all know his time management is one of if not THE worst in the NFL.

#3 Braylon.... I have no idea what has happened to him but we need him back. I don't think he is a one year wonder.... he's just off...

Anyway, I'm annoyed. I want to see Quinn. Phil needs to force this issue... Romeo CLEARLY won't do it himself.

Romeo needs to go Period!

I'll expand a little on our problems.....
Problem #1 - Savage is the idiot who signed DA to a 4 year $20 million contract. You think he is going to pressure Romeo to sit DA? Nope.

Problem #2 - Romeo is a moron. No clock management, no accountability (how can we continually shoot ourselves in the foot with penalties?), he has clearly lost control of this team. If EVERYONE else in the state of Ohio (heck all over the country) can see that DA is HORRIBLE - the WORST QB in the NFL - why can't the head coach see it? Why? Either Savage won't let him put Quinn in, or Romeo is a moron - take your pick.

Problem #3 - DA. Trade him, bench him, cut him. I don't care - I don't want him on our team (and someone please wipe that smirk off his face every time he throws a bad pass - which is MOST of the time!).

Problem #4 - Edwards. If you had DA as your QB you'd be so shocked when one pass did come to you, you'd drop it too. Seriously, put Quinn in, and the drops stop.

Problem #5 - Winslow - A head case if there ever was one. But we need him, and we need him playing well. Put Quinn in, and if the offense clicks, all is well again.

Ego's from the front office to the coaches, to the players are ruining this 'team'. I would like to see Romeo and DA gone - never to return.

I just heard Romeo say "sometimes DA stays to one side, instead of going through his progressions". WOW> Thats what we've been saying since last year. That just proves the true problem of this team, Romeo is the slowest learner in the history of mankind. I'm also very tired of him blaming "the headset" for bad clock management. I've got a great high tech way of solving this problem. GIVE A SIGN TO SPIKE THE BALL, like waving your arm in a spiking manner! Maybe he'll figure it out in another year or two. WAY TO GO ROMEO.

Hey refs..........will you please lock the thread. It's way past the point of being effective. It's simply become just another hate DA and RAC rant.

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Hey refs..........will you please lock the thread. It's way past the point of being effective. It's simply become just another hate DA and RAC rant.

You mean, "Hey refs, this thread doesn't follow my beliefs, so please lock it."

You're like a rash.

No, I mean that the thread was initiated by me.....as a means for logic and reason.......but has turned into just another rant fest. There are plenty of hate-filled rants going on. No need for another one.

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You're like a rash.

Thanks

just call it a season and put quinn in there give him some reps for next yr

Awe c'mon the season is over. We've alreay lost two division tiebreakers. Start Quinn and give the young man some needed experience. They're already 2-4 and looking to do worse yet. The Browns look confused and unable to execute no matter how much inspiration that they receive. Even the great Jim Brown ca't seem to inspire and fire up this team enough. Browns will finish maybe 6-10.

Paul Rado on the WTAM post game show said ?"How can you coach a bunch of idiots who don't listen" Need anything else necessary?