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This has some very interesting stuff. I'm a little surprised they didn't have the Tabber on the panel.
 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/preview08/team?team=cle The Browns finished second in the AFC North last season with a 10-6 record. For Browns and AFC North coverage, visit James Walker's AFC North blog. ANALYST PREDICTION Jeffri Chadiha ESPN DIVISION FINISH: 2 They were good enough to win 10 games in 2007. They'll carry that momentum to a wild-card spot this fall, even with a daunting schedule on the horizon. John Clayton ESPN DIVISION FINISH: 2 On paper, the Browns might have passed the Steelers with upgrades to their offense and their run-stopping ability through the additions of Shaun Rogers and Corey Williams. But poor preseason showings make you wonder whether the team is looking too much at its press clippings from the 2007 10-win season. Tim Graham ESPN DIVISION FINISH: 1 They have a grueling schedule, but so do the other teams in the division. They have all the pieces to not only reach the playoffs but also make a deep run. Jeremy Green Scouts Inc. DIVISION FINISH: 1 Expectations are as high as they have ever been in Cleveland after a 10-6 performance in 2007. The offense carried this team last season, but I think it will be an improved defense that will carry the Browns to their first division title since reentering the NFL. Paul Kuharsky ESPN DIVISION FINISH: 2 With the big expectations comes a dip in the standings. Not completely sold on the starting quarterback. I like the Browns -- in 2009. Matt Mosley ESPN DIVISION FINISH: 1 In the past, this would have seemed like a reach, but Cleveland is coming off a 10-6 season and its defense received a significant upgrade. Phil Savage suddenly is the toast of the town. Mike Sando ESPN DIVISION FINISH: 2 The Browns won't surprise anyone this season, and Derek Anderson must prove he's more than a one-year wonder. Issues at cornerback raise concerns. Kevin Seifert ESPN DIVISION FINISH: 2 Can the defense catch up to the offense? That's a big question. James Walker ESPN DIVISION FINISH: 2 The Browns are deep and a trendy AFC playoff pick. But Cleveland must handle great expectations and a much tougher schedule in 2008. Still, expect a wild-card spot. Seth Wickersham ESPN The Magazine DIVISION FINISH: 1 The offense is loaded, and the defense is solid enough to put the Browns in the playoffs. Bill Williamson ESPN DIVISION FINISH: 2 The Browns are not going to sneak up on anybody this year, and that might hurt them. There is a ton of young talent on this team, but it still might not be playoff ready. Matt Williamson Scouts Inc. DIVISION FINISH: 2 Cleveland is good enough to get to the postseason, but its schedule is very difficult, and it is tough to project two AFC North teams getting into the playoffs. It would not be surprising to see QB Brady Quinn at some point. Pat Yasinskas ESPN DIVISION FINISH: 2 I'll buy the hype once they show they can win games consistently. But the Browns are going for it now after trading away most of their draft picks, and the gamble could pay off. |
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Some interesting stuff...As for as the steelers being rated ahead of the browns, well that is fine by me. I would rather us be the underdog, we seem to play better when we are the underdog anyway.
Formerly Known as DawgHowl. DieHard Browns Fan Since 1989 |
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Its plain and simple the Browns won't be ranked ahead of the steelers until the Browns can prove they can beat them.. and that hasn't happened for awile.
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We can survive losing against Dallas in game one. We must beat Pittsburgh at home in game two or we will be another also ran this season. This is a must not only from a standings point but also from a psychological point.
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I agree with all the thoughts of the pundents. here are mine.
We struggled mightily last season on the road. A trend that has continued into the pre-season. lets put it this way, if we had played all our pre-season games to this point like we did against the Jets, game 1 pre-season, the fire RAC and we suck crew would still be under their ROCKS. My absolute greatest fear for this season is that we continue to struggle on the road, if this team hasn't improved in a area that would be it. Without that improvement we could come up short, we have got to beat the teams we are suppose to on the road this year. In fact we have to beat teams at home where not suppose to beat and steal a few on the road as well. Will see how this plays out shortly to be sure. Better play on the road does concern me. JMHO Upbeat |
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I really don't care about prognosticators anymore. Last year we were supposed to be the worst team in the league. If we beat Dallas, we set the tone for the season.
 -Phil "Don Corleone" Savage says ..."never go against the family"- |
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Predictions are just that and nothing more. Honestly, AS OF NOW, I believe it will be a coin toss for the division.
Now, if we beat Dallas, we set the tone for the season without a doubt. They will be the true test. Only one team last season had more sacks than Dallas (that we are facing this season) and that's the Giants. If we beat Dallas, we can definitely do more than compete with the Steelers. I don't think it would be a coin toss at that point. We've only seemed to look awfully against true defensive pressure as inferred from the Giants and Lions in preseason. Granted, we had Hadnot in instead of Tucker. I believe Tucker is starting WK1 so there is an optimistic point of view.  Can't wait for o-eight! Get 'em Browns! Get 'em! |
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Why don't you just copy and paste what i said?
-Phil "Don Corleone" Savage says ..."never go against the family"- |
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Yeah the bottom line is nobody is willing to,nor should they be, put us ahead of the Steelers due to our inability to beat them.
"2 be the man you've got 2 beat the man"... Some wrastla |
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I agree with all that, espeically Sando's comments.
I think DA will have a solid year, not Pro Bowl quality, but solid enough to not cost us wins. The big issue is this secondary of course, but I'm really growing concerned with our depth at WR and RB. |
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LOL BpG....My thoughts exactly...  |
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Here are MY thoughts...I really don't care about prognosticators anymore. Last year we were supposed to be the worst team in the league. If we beat Dallas, we set the tone for the season.
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I think if we beat Dallas, that will set the tone for the rest of the season.
Word. |
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dang, beat me too it.  Word. |
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At this point I am really tired of all the bla bla bla.
It's time to get it on. We have assembled a talented team. More talent and more depth than since we came back into the league(99). Let's see what they can do. Last year the Giants were not the best team in the league. But they got hot at the right time and played their best when it counted most. That's how you win tournaments. Stay in the hunt during the season, win division games, win home games. Set the goal to win the division. But get into the tournament and get hot. We have enough talent to do that. Of course it remains to be seen if we can. |
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OK. I really don't care about prognosticators anymore. Last year we were supposed to be the worst team in the league. If we beat Dallas, we set the tone for the season. In life, you don't bet on the odds, you bet on yourself. |
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That's good stuff I don't care who ya are!
-Phil "Don Corleone" Savage says ..."never go against the family"- |
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Mom!! Meatloaf!......... "What is she doing? I never know what she's doing!" |
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Interesting read... Some love and some doubts... DUH...
All this list of takes is a bunch of if, and's, buts, they have to, on paper they, can they's... I say so what... We do that here... And many here know the Browns better than many of those who the hell are theys...  The Browns will prove there value on the field... Let the passes and snot bubbles fly... "A persons character is their fate"... Heraclitus |
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Not only do I think we'll finish 1st in the div, but with the Steelers also playing NE and SD plus the tough schedule our div plays, I don't even see them finishing 2nd. My pics for the div:
Browns: 10-6 Bengals: 8-8 Steelers: 7-9 Ravens: 6-10 I know we haven't looked particularly good in preseason (with injured players out), but the Steelers haven't been impressive even with their starters. I think they're getting old on the oline and this season will expose it. |
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Then why would you even post in this thread? Get over yourself! |
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