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Antonio Gates is the chargers TE, not Gonzalez
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Let's see , he mistakes Rivers for Brees. He mistakes Gates for Gonzales. I wonder if he was really watching Law? ROTFLMAO Provacative post , wouldn't you say ? " All we can do is continue to put this organization in the right position and finally stick with it." Randy Lerner |
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do bulletin board officials have a life? just curious.
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Law is a beast and will be for a couple more years IMO.He would up grade our D ALOT i can't really understand why people are saying we don't want him or need him.EW is my favorite player on our D but i think LAW would challange him for the #1 spot if not take it.BMac would lose the #2 spot
I think we should atleast talk to the guy and see what he's asking for.I dont think we should give him a long term contract but a healthy 1 or 2 year contract would be great. I want a SB this year and if we dont make it I only see 2 positions (pre-pre season)that could cost us that chance QB and CB.So why not up grade CB when we have the chance?As for DA i dont even want to get into the debate,I just hope we get the DA we got week 2 of last year with a few improvements. |
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i think crennel should stay away from his former pats. mcginest was signed at an old age and i feel law will end up in a similiar situation. crennel needs to build his own legacy from players he builds himself without the pats help. not to mention the financial risk we would be taking.
browns fans would be happier if we were 2-14 with 2 steeler defeats than if we went 14-2 with 2 steeler losses |
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At least everyone in the league knows we are looking for a corner. They won't be hiding anyone that is good on the practice squad.
This could create a ripple effect. Maybe a team keeps a good corner and releases a good d-lineman. Who knows? Maybe waiting to sign him is the smartest move. I just hope the Browns don't disappoint like the Indians have. Go Browns --------------------------- Heads I win, Tails you lose |
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If anything Ty Law brings us much needed playoff and championship experience ! He would be a better teacher to E Wright and B Mac than Terry Cousin . And with Gary Baxter working so hard on a comeback , how much can he teach ? I don't know if he is the solution , but he definately wouldn't worsen the problem
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You must realize we aren't looking for long term help. McG played well his first year here. We only need one decent year from Law playing Nickel so we can address the issue the next offseason. He knows the scheme and he would be a great mentor for two yound talented corners. IMO Law >>> Cousin |
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Actually this is the perception of the Mass Media who must cover the entire NFL with a broad stroke. Their assessments with us is not from talking to Savage, RAC or Tucker. Its not from their observations of our Mini camps. Its simply from looking at their papers and they see 2 second year Corners as our top 2 and a 2nd banana nickel, dime vet in Cousins as our meat and potato for this position. From there they asses we are desperate at Corner. They do not know how our Staff Assess, Davis, James as well as how well Adams has done as a nickel Corner. One thing I do know cause quite frankly what I do not know is how the coaching staff assesses those players. Just that they have been happy from what they see. But what I do know - in every case where we were DESPERATE for a position. Savage did not sit around and do nothing. He did not Wait. He acted immediately in every case. Holcomb wanted to look around...boom he went and got Dilfer. We were desperate for a Center after Bentley and Haller went awry...boom he went and got Fraley. We were desperate for Interior help...boom he went and got Steinbach and McKinney. We were desperate for DL help...boom he went and got Rogers and Corey. We are desperate for CB??? Something is missing here and it starts with "Boom"! We might have a need to upgrade with veteran help??? But I don't think it comes close to a desperation level. JMHO New OC in 07-New DC in 08/ Road to respect is here!! Woof! Woof!! Woof!!! |
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I understand where you are coming from EO but I am not so sure I have made my view clear for you to see where I am coming from. I believe the NFL is a young talented veterans league. You need youth, and talent, and knowledge. I know that Wright, McDonald, James, and Davis all have youth and talent. What they don't have is experience, valuable NFL experience. Our Browns will face some of the most talented and experienced receivers in the NFL this season, with or without a playoff berth. With Terry Cousins as our only experienced CB, I am concerned that our guys will be overmatched by wiley veterans during critical times of the games and season. I want to enjoy watching the Browns and I know seeing our boys get schooled will ruin my viewing pleasure. LOL. I agree that with time the four young men may be great and when you add next year's first rounder, we should be good for a few years. But I want us to win NOW. That is why I feel we are desperate for a talented veteran CB. I wish we could get a young one like Sheppard from Philly, but that wont happen. But to go into this season of dreams with a clear cut HOLE is just puzzling, especially when the answer is available. (Assuming he hasn't lost a step) --------------------------- Heads I win, Tails you lose |
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two cents...I hear you and you do make cents.
We are talking about Law...and he has proven he could be a good leader, IF THINGS GO HIS WAY. He also has proven to be disruptive at times if they do not. Would he accept his role as mentor over starter. What if McD beats him out? Will Law be happy as the 3rd or 4th banana? Will he sacrifice a big paycheck for a SB run with us...and not be a starter? I think its dangerous waters we would tred - and possibly the precautions that Savage and RAC might have in bringing him here. So much of our CB situation is going to depend on our Pass rush. How much will the two NFL DTs that we brought in with 7 sacks each in 07 will open up our pass rush??? Will it still be Ho Hum? Will just improve in a small scale. Will the doors just open up like a broken dam and we will see sick pressure from all angles and not only that - each and every time we blitz positive results cause of the attention to the others? This is where our DB situation stands right now on being Mediocre-OK-Good-Great! JMHO - right now what we do have is team speed at the CB position. New OC in 07-New DC in 08/ Road to respect is here!! Woof! Woof!! Woof!!! |
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EO, you mention that we have team speed at the CB position. Are you saying that our corners are faster than typical NFL corners as a group? If so, I didn't know that. Thanks. Please confirm.
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Dead on Eo, we really don't know what will happen until it hits the field .
One has to think the Coaching staff isn't overly motivated to get a high priced teacher that could do more harm than help. I don't think the lack of signing Law, when he has expressed an intrest,is all due to money. If our DL steps up I think we will be fine , and wouldn't it be that much more satisfying to have done it with out a kneejerk reactionary move? Our young guys could develop into somthing special that would be around for years. Wohoo, go get em Savage. Things like this have me thinking we are building a dynasty , not a 1 time SB winner. " All we can do is continue to put this organization in the right position and finally stick with it." Randy Lerner |
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Well, we're definitely keeping:
Eric Wright Brandon McDonald Terry Cousin Travis Daniels Sean Jones Brodney Pool Mike Adams Nick Sorensen I think we'll end up keeping 9-10 DBs total and with Mike Adams' versatility it will probably be 9. If we keep 10, we probably see them as a serviceable DB with potential. With the "guaranteed 8" above (JMO obviously), these are the people left to choose from: A.J. Davis Travis Key Gerard Lawson Brandon Mitchell Jereme Perry So, if we sign Ty Law, we would have an automatic 9 DBs. I'd say we'd have a good, solid 9 DBs too. There will be good depth in there as well. So if we sign Ty Law, 0-1 of the above would make the final 53, maybe another on the practice squad (keeping 9-10). If we don't sign Ty Law, we'll be keeping 1-2 of the above for the final 53 and another on the practice squad. It would end up being a toss up over A.J. Davis and Gerard Lawson. I haven't seen enough of Gerard Lawson but just from the Lions game I'm impressed. A.J. Davis seems to have tight coverage for the most part, got beat over the top but is that all on him? Coaches choice. Whichever doesn't make the team is going on the practice squad. It's a good thing we have another preseason game before having to decide the 53 man roster. Mitchell is probably getting cut before 4pm today. I'm all for the signing of Ty Law. Just him mentoring would be valuable enough for our 2nd year starting CBs.  Can't wait for o-eight! Get 'em Browns! Get 'em! |
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Well our product has hit the field. James has been cut and Cousins is no where near the product we thought he was.
Our best Nickel back is our Safety backup Adams. Also in lieu of the recent ability of our DL with Rogers in it being able to stop the run - And our overall lack of a Pass rush. We will see a lot of 3+ WR sets forcing us into Nickel D. You'll see 4 man line Wimbley, Rogers, Williams n McG (or Hall) 2 ILB DQ n AD with our Nickel DBs. I really, really would like to see Law signed now. I do think we will only give him a couple of Mil n a 1 year contract for him to showcase get a shot at the playoffs and become a FA next season. Similar to Lewis. The only team interested in him is the JETs and he's hesitant for a reason. He also has spoken with only two other with interest. Parcells and RAC...who stands the best shot at a successful season. I think he will forgo the better contract in NY and take our simple offer! I sure hope so! I think EW n McD will maintain their starting status but Law will have ample opportunitites to come on the field and IMPACT. JMHO and the way its stands now that I've seen the product we got out there! New OC in 07-New DC in 08/ Road to respect is here!! Woof! Woof!! Woof!!! |
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eotab, I think Belichick was also interested in Law. I think its a toss up between the Pats and us in terms of sealing the deal, thus far anyway.
Also, I think we only have ~$2.4 million to spare for this season's salary cap. Can't wait for o-eight! Get 'em Browns! Get 'em! |
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Thats cuz all of there olinemen retired
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I would love to see Law become a Brown because (even if he is past his prime), he should be able to teach McDonald and Wright new ideas about playing their position. Also, as was previously stated, he brings a name to our secondary, which can affect the way teams play against us on the pass. We need help, and Law could be the key to success, at least for this year.
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By our preseason performance its looks like Ty Law would help us.
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Ty Law changes the way teams will prepare for the Browns cause even with the lost step in his speed he is a veteran with attitude and knows how to disrupt WR in their patterns.
He Understands how to jam WR and he could teach our young DB's tricks. He would bring respectability to the DB's as well. "" Phil Dawson Master of the Goal Post stanchion"" |
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Right now I'd say Parcells has the best shot at a successful season NOT RAC. |
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How could he not?? The Dolphins are loaded. |
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