Its fairly obvious Tucker was the key to that Monday night offensive explosion. I actually think that offensive line was better than last years. Just curious about which tackle/guard combination everyone favors. IMO Hadnot and Tucker is a much better combo . I just hope Tucker can stay healthy.

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Originally posted by rollup06:
Its fairly obvious Tucker was the key to that Monday night offensive explosion. I actually think that offensive line was better than last years. Just curious about which tackle/guard combination everyone favors. IMO Hadnot and Tucker is a much better combo . I just hope Tucker can stay healthy.

I think Shaffer is overrated and overpaid. We REALLY have to draft a RT soon. Someone that can learn under Tucker for a year or 2. We have seen what its like with/out a good RT/RG in the game.

Tucker is the key to the right side. He proved that Monday night. Let Shaffer back up Tucker and let Hadnot continue to play RG.....JMHO.

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Tucker is the key to the right side. He proved that Monday night. Let Shaffer back up Tucker and let Hadnot continue to play RG.....JMHO.

As long as Hadnot can get a snap count correct.

If not, then have Tucker go back to RG and Schaffer plat RT. See what works, but we cant have so many pre-snap penalties.

JMO

Shaffer is not a great player, but he did play pretty well last year. Tucker clearly needs to play. I would say our run blocking is better with Hadnot/Tucker than it is with Shaffer in there. Hadnot looks dumb out there sometimes, but he looked great with Tucker next to him, so it is hard to say. At this point, I think I have to go with Hadnot/Tucker but not by a landslide.

Not a big fan of Hadnot. Too many penalties and not a powerful enough run blocker. Our right side has been weak this year and I agree part of it has been Shaffer.

Shaffer at RT and Tucker at RG was the key to our line last year, that's what I would like to see again this season.

I'm with Flight, Tuck @ RG and Shaffer @ RT worked so well last year, why not go with it again?

Or is reversing it out of the question? With Tuck @ RT and Shaffer @ RG? Shaffer's ego would probably make him have a hissy fit if RAC tried to do that, but that's not the type of player we want anyways.

JMRO

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Originally posted by rollup06:
Its fairly obvious Tucker was the key to that Monday night offensive explosion. I just hope Tucker can stay healthy.

I agree!! welcome back Tuck..we missed you..he still graded out as the best OL even after being out so long....this guy knows how to play...smart man

Read in the paper today Tucker has a knee problem and was limited in practice. They were planing on rotating him with Schaffer anyway for some stupid reason. And since Winslow is in and Heiden is out I wouldn't count on seeing the team run right anytime soon.But hey, we'll throw the ball like crazy.

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Originally posted by Myka:
I'm with Flight, Tuck @ RG and Shaffer @ RT worked so well last year, why not go with it again?

Or is reversing it out of the question? With Tuck @ RT and Shaffer @ RG? Shaffer's ego would probably make him have a hissy fit if RAC tried to do that, but that's not the type of player we want anyways.

JMRO

I saw an interview with Shaffer on Browns.com and he really seemed like a nice guy... it would be interesting to know what he really thinks about moving from LT. I mean, its kind of an insult to the guy to rotate him at RT. It's time to make a decision: bench Hadnot or Shaffer or keep Tucker as a reserve. None of this rotating garbage. And with the way Tucker played against Tuck on MNF, I would think the former is more likely...

Well few are lible to remember, but I tried to say that if the Browns traded Shaffer they wouldn't miss him. I have never been a fan of Shaffer and as I said in pre-season Tucker was a much much better option then Shaffer. Well where are the Tucker is a swinging door crowd now, led by soup...

I think we hit a home run with the Tucker Hadnot combo. Hopefully Tucker can remain healthy we are a much better team with him that should be clear to everyone at this juncture.

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Originally posted by Cia Dawg:
Well few are lible to remember, but I tried to say that if the Browns traded Shaffer they wouldn't miss him. I have never been a fan of Shaffer and as I said in pre-season Tucker was a much much better option then Shaffer. Well where are the Tucker is a swinging door crowd now, led by soup...

I think we hit a home run with the Tucker Hadnot combo. Hopefully Tucker can remain healthy we are a much better team with him that should be clear to everyone at this juncture.

I remember. I remember you were all for trading Schaffer during camp as you were sure Tucker would be ready to start against he Cowboys.
Tucker is said to have a knee problem right now. Who would play RT if Tuck went down again?
I'm not a Schaffer fan either but right now his depth is much needed.

I think the Tucker/Hadnot combination could be effective.

Both are very strong at the point of attack. Both are excellent run blockers. Both are physical.

It would behoove our offense to run to the right, and these two guys give us that option. Running to the right really fits in well w/the guys we have on the left side. Joe, Steiny, and Hank all get to the second level well, and in fact, work better at the second level than they do at the point of attack. All are agile and have good range.

Thus, we could see some long runs by running to the right behind Tuck and Hadnot. This will allow Steiny and Joe to work to the second level and open up some really nice running lanes for our backs.

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Originally posted by flightno23:

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Originally posted by Myka:
I'm with Flight, Tuck @ RG and Shaffer @ RT worked so well last year, why not go with it again?

Or is reversing it out of the question? With Tuck @ RT and Shaffer @ RG? Shaffer's ego would probably make him have a hissy fit if RAC tried to do that, but that's not the type of player we want anyways.

JMRO

I saw an interview with Shaffer on Browns.com and he really seemed like a nice guy... it would be interesting to know what he really thinks about moving from LT. I mean, its kind of an insult to the guy to rotate him at RT. It's time to make a decision: bench Hadnot or Shaffer or keep Tucker as a reserve. None of this rotating garbage. And with the way Tucker played against Tuck on MNF, I would think the former is more likely...

He did play good. From what little bit I did focus on him it seemed like he had help fromt he Tight End intially.

The only real knock I have against Hadnot was the offside penalties.. there were at least 2, but I think more. However, the way those guys played Monday, I would take that setup for the rest of the season.

I would like to see Tucker make a home for himself at our RG spot.

1. It makes Shaffer actually a Good RT with Tucker along his side.

2. I think Tucker can gain longevity and stay on the field better from the RG position than RT.

Whatever the case - point blank Tucker has had a lot of injuries in his career. We need to invest in a Bona-fide stud Yute and groom him. I consider Shaffer as a good "temp" that can get the job done. We need a stud RT to match our LT. Get him, and I think Tucker has maybe 2 good seasons left in him at RG to groom the kid into a stud!


JMHO

I'm not really sure what combination is better actually ... we saw a lot of Shaffer and Tuck last year and we had a very successsful offense.

I think the bottom is that Tucker seems to make whoever he plays with better, but his body is starting to wear down. Where going to need all three of these guys as the season rolls on, and it is premature to be writing off Shaffer at this point.

eotab, I agree with you on most of it, but I think Tucker could last another 3 to 4 years at RG. I agree that the Browns should invest in adding a top flight RT to solidify the ends.
Shaffer was signed out of desperation three years ago, it was only when Savage was not able to resign LJ Shelton that he threw all that cash at Shaffer. I do not see Shaffer in a Browns uniform in the future, he is over paid an not very good. Lets hope that Savage has the guts to drat a RT high in the draft.

Tucker at RG and Shaffer at RT.

IT was tested last year and proved worthy.
Address a RT next year in the draft or FA and move Shaffer if he doesn't excell this season.

Vers..Good point. The second level play of our left side, also makes cut-backs viable.

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Originally posted by eotab:
I would like to see Tucker make a home for himself at our RG spot.

1. It makes Shaffer actually a Good RT with Tucker along his side.

2. I think Tucker can gain longevity and stay on the field better from the RG position than RT.

Whatever the case - point blank Tucker has had a lot of injuries in his career. We need to invest in a Bona-fide stud Yute and groom him. I consider Shaffer as a good "temp" that can get the job done. We need a stud RT to match our LT. Get him, and I think Tucker has maybe 2 good seasons left in him at RG to groom the kid into a stud!


JMHO

AGREE.

Hadnot has been a disappointment all year, IMO.

I think Friedman is better than him and i know Mckinney is...

Hadnot looks slow and extremely out of playing shape.