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the mark sanchez That threw for 110 yards 0 TD's and 5 Ints aginst buffalo and lost 3 straight games or are seeing another Mark Sanchez |
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its sad that i just assume the browns won't get high caliber players with their draft. It just seems the browns never take the "obvious" choice with their picks.
Pryor for QB next year? hahahaha "The name on the door is CLEVELAND." "Believeland" |
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Hopefully, we can manage to hit on the money with our picks and maneuver up and down in the draft. These are the guys I've been eyeing so far, but this may change in the future,
1st Round: Terrence Cody (DT), Sean Weatherspoon (OLB), Taylor Mays (S), Jermaine Gresham (TE) 2nd Round: Charles Scott (RB), Sam Young (OT), Adam Ulatoski (OT) 3rd Round: Micah Johnson (MLB), Anthony McCoy (TE) 4th Round: CB? S? 5th Round: BPA (CB, WR, QB) |
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Right now if we don't resolve this QB situation it looks like that is where we should be starting; however, that could be resolved in free agency I guess.
If looking for a QB I liked Bradford but his shoulder worries me right now. The other one I like which most probably won't is Clausen from Notre Dame. Of the safeties, I would take Berry over Mays. I just think he's a more physical presence. I do like Dwyer a lot and think he could be a beast. |
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Not sure if this club can draft but trading some of these to upgrade the draft might be a good idea maybe bundle some of the lower picks for draft upgrade |
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lol I see we have some who believe in Phil Savages philosophy.
The key to drafting isnt making more top talent picks, but being able to scout hidden talents in the laters round 3rd-7th. These are the players who you might find gold in, and if you dont you dont pay him millions like you would a top pick who busted. This in return saves you more money for more players. This is the same style of drafting New England uses, and Mangini believes in. Right now we are looking at a top 5 1st round pick, but its to early to tell. Our schedule gets a lot easier from this point on. Im pretty sure Mangini will trade down again this year for more picks, which is good because we could get a beast later in the 1st round (like we did in Alex Mack) for alot less money, and more 2nd round and later picks in that years draft. This is how you fix a roster and build a team. |
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I dont think we can say that based on what he did a year ago Each draft is different than the one before it...clearly Mangini didnt think that the talent at the top of the first round was light years ahead of the talent towards the middle and bottom of the first round and therefore he drafted accordingly This draft could be different: If Eric Berry is truly the next Ed Reed or if one of the QB's emerges as a franchise QB then we wont trade down...its all based on the talent, not some formula that applies to every draft Im past counting our record....here is to bringing it every week and improving our team as a whole! |
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If we have a opportunity to draft Eric Berry I really can't see us passing on him.
1) He has had NFL level coaching at Tennessee with Lane and Monte Kiffin so he will be polished. 2) He is VERY versatile and will play S, CB, and even a little LB. 3) He fills a need with our bad secondary. Pool is a UFA after this year and we just traded for Elam. _______________________ Rule#76: No excuses...Play like a champion |
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Anybody be interested in drafting Tony Pike? My only concern about him is his durability, guy needs to put on some weight.
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Free agents next year
http://www.footballsfuture.com/freeagents.html No Qb's I would be interested in... Rb- Leon Washington  Forget hope! Show me some HEART! |
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agreed, no one i really want. We're really in a bind. "The name on the door is CLEVELAND." "Believeland" |
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The Ravens won a super bowl with Trent Dilfer as QB...the Panthers got to a superbowl with Delhomme as QB...
Every single year I see teams invest their futures in a "franchise QB" often times it doesnt work out, because not every draft has a franchise QB I would much rather see us stick with a serviceable veteran than to draft a QB simply because it is a need position (i mean draft in the 1st round) I would much rather build around the QB position and then see what we can turn up the 85 Bears did not win because of their QB...he was merely there to act as an intermediary between the center and the RB lol If we establish a strong running game and a smash mouth defense then we stand the chance of plugging any joe shmo into the QB position and having him at least do average Look at the Ravens of last year...Flacco inherited a legendary defense and a strong running game...all he had to do his rookie year was to sling it downfield a few times Having said that, I would like us to pick up Brandon Spikes, Carlos Dunlap, or Eric Berry in the draft...each one of those players will be a force for years to come Im past counting our record....here is to bringing it every week and improving our team as a whole! |
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All I know is, with all of these picks, we better get some elite speed players on both sides of the ball.
I'm sick of watching this team run like they're in slow motion. Just get faster and physical. ------------------------------------------- BEST Film of 2009: DISTRICT 9.  |
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i was just thinking that we might be able to get him with a 3rd. i was big on Bradford until he went down for the 2nd time now i think we should get Tony pike in the 2nd or third or Jimmy Clausen in the first |
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it would be nice to get Brandon Marshal or Vincent Jackson |
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BRANDON MARSHALL?!?! Your crazy, we just got rid of the guy who tied him for most drops in the NFL and here you are saying we need to get this guy, LOL! Hes another trouble player, he doesnt fit into Manginis style of player. We have enough players dropping passes as it is. |
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he is the best offensive player on a 5-0 team i would defiantly want him and who says Mangini will be here next year. to go along with those players i wouldn't mind Nick Collins, Green-bay Shawne Merriman, San Diego, Atari Bigby, Green Bay, Antoine Bethea, Indianapolis or, Darren Sproles, San Diego by the way brownsfan1988 Do you have trouble reading because i said it would be nice to get Brandon Marshall not we NEED!! to get him |
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What is Mangini's style of player? He's not a proven coach, he has no right to walk around with the sort of arrogance he has. This the new breed of NFL players, the days of building teams without egos is non-existent. Mangini's job should be to keep his stars players happy, not show them the door (ala, Kellen Winslow and Braylon Edwards). That type of coach only works if you're a proven winner, which Mangini clearly isn't. You all need to stop buying into what these pathetic regimes sell you. ------------------------------------------- BEST Film of 2009: DISTRICT 9. |
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So Mangini's job is to let the inmates run the asylum? Ask RAC how that went? Not very good. BTW: What's the Jets record since acquiring Braylon? What's Tampa's record?
Mangini has had two winning seasons as a head coach. That's as many as we've had over the last decade. He's going to have time to build the team his way. Let's see if it works. Actually, we better hope it does because if it doesn't that means we're back at square one in three years. |
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lmao, the Jets nor Tampa are losing due to the two mentioned players. Could you have at least reached for a better reason? And the Jets will be fine, I'm sure.
The Jets should have went to the Playoffs last year, Mangini pulled a chokejob. Oh, and isn't he the idiot who left Favre in there when he clearly should have been benched? Only sheep will blindly blame NY's meltdown last year strictly on Favre. Anyway, ask Josh McDaniels and Marvin Lewis how they're doing after dealing with adversity with their star players? Just because things don't smooth over right away, it doesn't mean unleash your best talent. Again, Mangini is not a winner... he made the Playoffs in his first season due to a severely weak schedule similiar to what the Browns had in 2007. Mangini is a joke, bank on it. He's not the answer. I'll let anyone quote this over the next several years and when I turn out to be right, I'll just say I told you so. ------------------------------------------- BEST Film of 2009: DISTRICT 9. |
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Sorry, you can disagree with the direction, his ideal's or whatever. You can't possibly see he's a 'joke' or he's 'not the answer', not yet anyway. There is no way your crystal ball is that shiny. I'm not sold on him either, but I know as a FAN (semi well educated, at that) that even I don't know if he will pan out. Whether you like it or not, he's not going to be fired this year, or probably the next. He will get his shot, just like every coach has since the Browns have been reinstated. (Well, Palmer didn't get much of one, but two 2-14 seasons didn't help). _________________________ Do it right the first time, so you don't have to do it right the second time. |
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I like someone's point about needing to have a strong run game before taking a qb. I woul dlove to get a great back in here but who could do you guys think could do that for us next year? The only guy I really see making an impact would maybe be C.J. Spiller
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Does anyone think that Brandon Spikes could fall to the 2nd round? Like Laurinaitis or Maualuga last year? I've seen a couple sites that have him mocked to go in the later part of the first round which was about where those two were slotted last year.
My dream scenario right now is Eric Berry in the first and Brandon Spikes in the 2nd |
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you make no sense we are talking about Brandon Marshall he is 5-0 so his charchter is not affecting his team |
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I'd love for us to address the D in the draft but can we really come back with this offense? There are just so many holes on each side of the ball. That said, I'd love to see us get a good smash mouth LB or Safety... and offensively we need a RB of the future. Jamal is old, Harrison is serviceable and the jury is out on Davis though I liked what i saw. Get another young stud RB and have a serious one-two punch would be a nice change. The QB can't throw picks by handing off. "The name on the door is CLEVELAND." "Believeland" |
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I would be happy if we can get a quality guard in the third....pair that with a decent RT pick up in FA and we could be set for a few years!
Im past counting our record....here is to bringing it every week and improving our team as a whole! |
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Offensively, we need a RB, RT, WR, WR, RG (in that order).
Defensively, we need a LB, DE, LB, SS, CB (in that order). Man, this team has a lot of needs. I just pray we get some much needed speed on both sides of the ball. I can handle being a .500 team if we at least compete and show consistent flashes of excitement, but my God, this team looks like it's moving in slow motion week in and week out. ------------------------------------------- BEST Film of 2009: DISTRICT 9. |
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CP ... I actually agree with you for a change.  ********************************************************************* “We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager.” - Marv Levy |
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of the 11 picks this team had better get at least 3 starters. should not be hard to do. i really believe this april's draft is mangini's only chance at hitting the nail square on the head. this draft will make or break him. |
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I agree with your previous post on speed, we sorely lack that elite speed on either side of the ball. I also agree with the idea of keeping star players happy, that is his job, In the case of KW however, I thnk that horse had already left the barn, do not think he was going to be happy here no matter what, based on what his perceptions of past events were, ( not saying who is at fault). BE on the other hand might have been handled differently and brought back to the fold. ------------------------------------------------------------" I wuv triple time harch" - Madeline Kahn ( History of the World Part1) |
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I agree 100%. --------- Welcome to Cleveland! Home of the famous Tiredcat formation and the premier place that QB's come to kill their careers. |
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I guess I dont share the enthusiasm that most everyone does about having 11 draft picks or whatever, mostly for two reasons.
1) All but 1 of the additional picks are below the 5th round. Sorry, but success rate with those high of picks are veeeeery slim. Dont count on anything, if something does, then fantastic, but reality is that we wont get any impact players. 2) What we gave up for them. Namely Edwards and Winslow. These are impact players that we got rid of and didnt really have anyone to take their place. Yeah people will say that they wanted out or had bad attitudes, guess what, work with it, and do what you gotta do to make them want to stay after next year because we dont have anything better or even close to the same caliber. I think that we should be able to pick up impact or quality starters from the 1-3rd rounds, anything after that is worse than a crapshoot. Unless we can package the later rounds to move up and get another 3rd or 4th, there really isnt much a do about the additional later round picks. --------- Welcome to Cleveland! Home of the famous Tiredcat formation and the premier place that QB's come to kill their careers. |
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good post. 1 speed have harrington and cribbs on the field 2 drafting draft the best player,I like a draft of terrence cody dt rogers to de and then spikes =awesome defense more speed there are some receivers that have 4.35 speed projected to go late second early third draft them 3 blocking te or dl runstopper |
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So the Jets should have made the playoffs last year with the team that Mangini helped put together and took to the playoffs in 2006, but Mangini doesn't have a track record. As for McDaniels, I like him and wanted him as our coach for my first choice. I think he's doing a very good job, but he inherited much more talent than Mangini. And Lewis (as an aside- it's funny you chose both Lewis and McDaniels because I wanted Lewis over Butch too) he has a lot of talent on that team. Actually he has a considerable amount of talent but he's been to the playoffs in his years as coach just as many times as Mangini and he's had fewer winning seasons. Mangini has TWO and Lewis has 1 winning season and several 8-8s. I do agree that you need to have special talents to win games, but if that player doesn't fit what you are trying to do I don't think you need to keep them. I think we had legitimate reason for trading KII and Braylon. However, Shaun Rogers is seen as a special talent with a big ego and I haven't seen any issues since the Touchdown club incident so maybe that shows Mangini can deal with big egos. My statement was just poking fun at the idea that we would be different with Braylon and KII. In fact we would be in the same boat and on the way to losing Braylon next year in free agency. The game we won was without Braylon and he wasn't making a difference while he was here. As for Mangini/Kokinis, I like most of what they're doing, but somethings I do disagree with; however, just like it's too early to label them a failure, it's also too early to label them a success. One thing is for sure we should ALL, as Browns fans, be hoping they succeed otherwise that is three more years and a rebuild. It seems like you would be happier to be proven right and have Mangini fail than to be proven wrong and have him succeed. I wasn't a fan of Romeo as a coach, but I always wanted him to succeed and win games. It sure looks like we'll be seeing much more of this year's draft picks as the season wears on and that should give us a good idea of Mangini/Kokinis's talent evaluation skills. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Flodawg10, |
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This the mantra:
BUILD THE OL! GET BLOCKERS! BUILD THE OL! Thank you very much.  GO BROWNS!!!!!!! |
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I dont know Orton is playing some Pretty good ball right now. Cadillac Williams,Ronnie Brown,LenDale White would all look pretty good in orange and brown. Vincent Jackson and Steve Breaston are about the only WR's I like on the list. I like Scheffler as a TE. LB seems to be deep next year I like Dansby and Ware. |
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I like lendale white. build the line then draft the back. This message has been edited. Last edited by: jacksondawg, |
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[/QUOTE]So you would take Berry over Mays? I watched that game too and was very impressed with Berry. I just can't get past Mays at 6'3" and 240lbs and runs a 4.3 forty... Mays is a beast and will knock someone's head off, something the Browns haven't had since Eric Turner.[/QUOTE]
To jump in here... I know Taylor Mays' measurables jump off the chart... but Eric Barry has that football instinct that just can't be measured or taught, he is an animal in run support and is like an Ed Reed type of ballhawk (obviously more highly touted than Ed Reed was coming out of college bc he dropped into the 20's)in that he returns these things for huge gains and touchdowns. As much as I love Eric Barry and how much I love defense... this is one of the worst offensive teams I have seen and perhaps an elite caliber offensive player like Bradford, Jhavid Best, or even Tebow (trade down) would be ideal. Now when I say Tebow that doesn't necessarily mean as a quarterback, but just as a football player. As much as I love to hate Tebow, nobody can deny his passion and leadership and who's to say he can't drop back and throw? Oh, but if we can net Eric Barry and Brandon Spikes I'd say that would RIVAL Ed Reed and Ray Lewis... yeah, I said it. I know it's a stretch but in this weird Heisman year Berry could be a candidate to win it, and Spikes is one of the nastiest linebackers I've seen. He's from Florida too, just like Lewis. From there on we could concentrate solely on offense and building the lines. Browns fan 0-16 or undefeated |
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watched the FSU game.... Ponder looks like he'd be a Mangini type QB.
got his bachelors in 2.5 years. gunslinger, great athlete, makes good decisions. well versed in not having a good line.. |
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My number one target if we can get him is Jake Locker(second fastest dude on team for huskies)...Fast,strong,tough,good arm,..All the tools for future QB for the browns..And keep Anderson as a backup...Both northwestern guys..At the pace we are going looks like we will have our shot at him.
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