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I'm not the one spouting off incoherent nonsense and trying to pick a fight. I simply responded to an uninformed poster that I felt obligated to set straight. I initially stated an honest opinion and was attacked by a poster for no legitimate reason. But no, I'm the troll. Good call there.  ------------------------------------------- BEST Film of 2009: DISTRICT 9.  |
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Tell me what has he done since his recriuts have been here. -0- USC has our # ; Fla has our # ; lost to Purdue. Yea he's great. ------------------------------ Derek Anderson 10.5 QB rating week 8-NOT SMACK JUST FACT |
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Im not an OSU homer by any means... but Tressel has done quit a bit Multiple BCS Game Showing a few wins in them.. Split with texas in the regular season games. He has an upset loss to a purdue to and everyone is acting like he has done nothing its kind of a joke, and a very untrue statement. I guess beating Michigan as much as he has means nothing either to the OSU homers? he has a young team this year with a QB who is going to take time to develope... and on to the young QB... he chose ohio state becuase he wants to play as a pro style QB That is why pryor chose osu over michigan.. Pryor would have probably of had much better stats at a school like michigan where his athletism would have been much more used, but he is a work in progress and is still in the middle of his sophmore year!!!!  |
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im taking names,
im surprised so many think terelle is not the guy  he has much room to grow._____________________ Josh Cribbs to the House!!__it must be the lake effect ================> |
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Pryor is what 16-3 as a srarter and is only a sophmore. Give him a break. I think he will be a WR in the NFL though.
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i'm all set for ohio state to suck and my browns to pick up the slack 8)
"The way I see it, these fans would party on Saturday if Ohio State won the national championship, but the city would burn down if we won the Super Bowl.” Joe Jurivicious |
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ive had time to think about it, The Ohio State University will beat psu, iowa and michigan. this isnt a homer pick, its just gonna happen. im putting some of my credibility on the line. _____________________ Josh Cribbs to the House!!__it must be the lake effect ================> |
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I always thought he was over rated
It makes me scratch my head when the media wants to crown a running QB as the next greatest thing I feel like they always have to move on and figure out who is going to be the next Heisman even if they havent suited up yet Im past counting our record....here is to bringing it every week and improving our team as a whole! |
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As bad as I hate to say it I think your right. OSU has their hands full with Michigan this year. OSU is truly not much better. Now if they had a QB that could actually throw we would probably be undefeated right now. The fact is we don't or we are at least not playing one so that Michigan OSU game is going to be a close one and don't be at all surprised if UM pulls out a win in their own house. This is not the team that we call the Browns that team left and never came back!! |
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What are you talking about!? OSU will stomp UM, just like the last five years. They managed to make Illinois look good and that is a hard thing to do.
Terminator, what percentage of the play book did dickrod use this week? Two weeks in a row Forcier has looked like a bum, so what's the excuse now? Pryor will torch UM. |
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Terminator, Where do yoou get your misinformation from? Michigan is not the youngest in the Big Ten. Michigan has 38 Freshmen, 25 Soph., 30 Jrs., 33 Srs. Thats 63 frosh/Soph. Ohio State has 49 Frosh, 21 Soph., 28 Jrs., 19 Srs., totaling 70 Frosh/Soph. Try again you fail. |
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Dude, give it a rest. OSU and Pryor seem to be working out their bugs while Michigan is getting worse and worse. Tate the Great is showing why nobody else wanted him. Here's some stats that you should really look at. Tate 124.55 rating 1167 yards passing 9 td 5 int 190 yards rushing 2 td Terrelle 146.5 rating 1311 yards passing 12 td 4 int 631 yards rushing 6 td This was even before Tate's latest masterpiece and these are Terrell's stats as a freshman. We'll see how they stack up in three more weeks. All I know is I like where my team is heading. |
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I like your thinking. But I don't see us beating Penn St. at their place. I think we will beat Iowa and UM. As for Pryor, he has been terrible all season. He stares down his rec's. And he just throws the ball up to much. As for Trussell, He is a good coach. But I don't think he is a very good OC. And Heacock has no imagination running the Def. All he does is rush the front 4, and when we do blitz, they show it way to soon. Dantonio was the best DC we had. The talent is carring Heacock. I would like to see us bring in a young aggressive DC and let our OC call the plays. Open up the play book. If pryor don't know it put in someone that knows it. And get a Offensive line coach. |
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Wow, your posts are hilariously bad. In terms of starting players, Michigan is the youngest team in the Big 10. This has been discussed my commentators on a week to week basis, your precious OSU team isn't even second or third, Northwesteren comes in next, followed by I believe MSU, but I'm not 100% sure on them. Over 70% of Michigan's starting roster are true freshmans and sophomores, which is clearly younger than OSU. ------------------------------------------- BEST Film of 2009: DISTRICT 9. |
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I don't care much about you twos war, but I read the original posts and believed them...You stated team twice, not starters. So I had to look now that your arguing back and forth.
Michigan: Freshman : 38 Sophmores: 25 Juniors : 30 Seniors : 33 Thats 66 Fr/So and 66 Jr/Sr...So 50% for the team, sounds like a ideal split. They don't list starters on ESPN. Only saw it on Rivals, which the previous link had and 27.3% (6 of 22 starters) of the starters were So./Fr. on that link. A far cry from 76%, so the second justification was worse than the first. I could be wrong, but thats two pretty well known college links. Thats another reason to not believe the stuff that spews from commentators mouths. link: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/...=130&sort=experience Figured I would do the other side of argument since both are in dispute: Ohio St.: Fr - 49 So - 21 Jr - 28 Sr - 19 So thats 70 Fr/So to 47 Fr/So, so the one person stating younger as a team is correct. I will look up Rivals starters next. link: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/teams/roster?teamId=194 Ohio State: 22.72% (5 of 22 starters). So Michigan wins this one by one player. link: http://michigan.rivals.com/cde...ear=2007&Team=OHIOST Although the young offensive argument goes to Ohio St. if you just go by the players eligibility, since all of theirs Fr/So are on offense. That doesn't take the Rich Rod argument into account though. |
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As stated earlier the Troll is wrong. Thanks for articulating better than I did.
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How many Big 10 titles has tOSU won in a row? How many BCS games has tOSU played in? It seems to me that there are only a few other college programs that can claim similar success recently. |
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wow _____________________ Josh Cribbs to the House!!__it must be the lake effect ================> |
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i thought this post was about Terrel?
Michigan does have a young team, but so does OSU ... and OSU continues to produce a top 5 recruiting class in the country. Tressel lots of times will rather play the upperclassmen than start the freshman's, unless the freshman just are too good to sit. |
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What happened to all the OSU haters? How's the improvement going in Ann Arbor?
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oh don't worry, I'm still here, and I'm still content with the direction Michigan is heading it. Have they regressed? Obviously, especially after a 4 - 0 start, but it's more on Robinson than it is Rodriguez. Michigan has an offense, which will be even better by next year, all they need is some defense and they'll be much better. Yeah, it sucks seeing them blow a 4 - 0 start, but I'm not jumping off the bandwagon.
They'll be ok. ------------------------------------------- BEST Film of 2009: DISTRICT 9. |
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How can you be content with the direction they are heading? If you like it, I love it.
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LOL Michigan sucks and OSU is going to the Rose Bowl. End of discussion.
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say what you will. But the guy has led the team to 2 big ten titles and 2 BCS games in 2 years. could you do bettet?
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chris has been here with us through the good and the bad for Michigan over the years, unlike another Michigan fan that only speaks out when Michigan starts out fast or when OSU loses in the Bowl game. He's been kinda quiet since the victory over Notre Dame.
OSU cannot take Michigan lightly, and i know tressel will have their heads in the game, but Michigan can score and have good firepower. if it werent for some turnovers today, they would've put up near 40 on Wisconsin. it'll be their bowl game next week. They do have an outside shot of going to a Bowl game, most likely the Bowl game thats there in Detroit, facing the MAC champion. Pryor still worries me though... his mechanics still need to be worked on. He's improved through the course of the season with his accuracy. right now i'D say he is a tad behind schedule compared to what Vince Young was doing as a sophomore for Texas. |
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I guarantee you don't even watch Michigan's games and see the progress they've made from last year to this year. As dawgalexander pointed out, Michigan has an offense and can score, it's their defense and ONLY their defense as to why they've plummeted to 5 - 6. Sure, Rich Rod has been outcoached in a couple of games, but Greg Robinson is the real joke. Rich has proven he can get the talent and speed for his offense, he even has 11 new players coming in for it next year, another being a QB that will most likely make Forcier go to the bench. All Michigan needs is a defense and they're right back atop the Big 10, just wait and see. Miami had to go through this with Randy Shannon, they're the perfect example of what happens when you inherit a college team with somebody elses recruits, just like Rich has with Michigan. It's going to take some time, but the short term loses will make the long term winning all the much more memorable and grateful. ------------------------------------------- BEST Film of 2009: DISTRICT 9. |
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The Big 10 is so overrated. OSU is going to the Rose Bowl by default - they are the best team in the big 10. They don't deserve to even be in the top 20 in the country sec 503 |
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Seriously. OSU is just going to get out-hussled by superior athletes... again. The Big 10 really sucks right now. As much as I'm willing to be patient with Rich Rodriguez, I'd be willing to part ways with him right now for one of the following guys: Brian Kelly, Les Miles, Chris Peterson, Kirby Smart, or Charlie Strong. ------------------------------------------- BEST Film of 2009: DISTRICT 9. |
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our Buckeyes need to win the Rose Bowl this year, especially since USC will not be representing. Oregon is very good and very fast. and Stanford has one helluva running game and a pretty good freshman QB, and one of the up an coming college Head Coaches around in ex-Michigan, ex-Bear, ex-Colt QB Jim Harbaugh.
If they play Oregon... OSU will lose if they play Stanford, Arizona or Oregon St.. it will be a very close game. anyways... Big 10 probably will not represent well again in the Bowl Games this year, may get 2 victories, but will lose the rest. |
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What'd Tressel do with Cooper's recruits in 2002? You make enough excuses and they are all bad. Didn't Weiss make a BCS bowl against Ohio State with Willingham's recruits? |
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Yeah, 'cause we all know Lloyd Carr's recruits fit a spread-option system. Don't be naive. Cooper at least brought in the same style of players that Tressel uses, and Weiss arguably recruits worse than Willingham. You can't use those coaches as an example, seeing as Rich Rodriguez is using an entirely different system, which requires a complete 180 in the athletes being used. Seriously, use some logic, please. ------------------------------------------- BEST Film of 2009: DISTRICT 9. |
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Really? How do teams have superior athletes compared to Ohio State when they are always in the top 10 at least in recruiting? It's not talent being the problem for losing. As a BIG10 person you should know that isn't true. But, i'm sure your hate of Ohio State won't let you admit the truth. Plus all that inferior talent has been drafted more times this decade than any other school. That's just a fact. I'm sure the NFL likes drafting crappy athletes. |
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Dude, even Michigan constantly finishes in the top 10-15 in recruiting, year in and year out, yet look how slow their defense is, particularly their DBs and safeties. The reason our teams finish so high is do to the BEST athletes we get in the midwest (however, the best athletes in the south put our best to shame, I can assure you this). Yes, OSU has put a lot of players into the NFL, but so has the SEC, Pac-10, and the ACC. The bigger difference is, OSU has been more notorious for slot/possession receivers as of late. Seriously, when was the last time a receiver ran a legitimate 4.3 in the Big 10? It's been for-freaking-ever with the exception of Ginn. The SEC has far superior athletes in terms of speed, agility, and fluid movement. Teams like Texas, Oregon, and California also have a lot of fast athletes, thanks to the outstanding talent they have in the westcoast. The Big 10 is slow... that's one like I still like about Rich Rod, Michigan may suck right now... but at least he'll bring in the same type of players you'd see in the SEC and Big East. And hey, I'm not saying OSU has horrible talent, they definitely do an outstanding job at recruiting in Ohio... but they get the best physical, big athletes... they don't have the speed to come close to competing with a Florida, Alabama, LSU, etc. ------------------------------------------- BEST Film of 2009: DISTRICT 9. |
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Yeah true for skilled positions you are probably right. I think the defense Ohio State usually gets can stay with them enough to win though. The Texas game last year and the USC game this year proved that. Despite USC struggling now they still have a lot of speed. Plus, i've noticed that Tressel the last few years has been recruiting faster guys on defense and guys that were recruited by "fast" teams. Speed doesn't always make you better though. There are ways to beat speed with the right game plan.
The bottom line is though no matter who you cheer for the BIG10 needs Ohio State to win in the Rose Bowl. I always cheer for BIG10 teams in the bowls even Michigan. I know the BIG10 is week lately but, it needs to start turning around. I think Ohio State has a good shot of winning and i'm not just saying that because, i'm an OSU fan. Oregon would be a tough game for Ohio State because, of their style of play but, i think they could still beat them. Stanford would probably be the better match up for OSU though. BIG10 as a whole needs to step it up this year in the bowls. |
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I have to disagree with your statment that the Big Ten produces very few "fast" recievers.
For OSU- Santonio Holmes and Ginn (who you mentioned) are very fast NFL recievers, Michigan State- Devin Thomas ran in the low 4.4's and Charles Rogers could fly, he just didn't have his head straight at all. Michigan had Manningham who may not have had the fastest 40 ever but he is the quickest receiver on the Giants now and the fastest in and out of his breaks, also they had Steve Breaston who is now the fastest wideout on the Cardinals (who have two recievers from the speedy southern conferences, Boldin from FSU and Early Doucet from LSU) Also don't forget two 4.3 guys that played for Wisconsin, Lee Evans and Paul Hubbard, or Derrick Williams and Deon Butler from Penn State |
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Manningham is not the fastest receiver for the Giants, Sinorice Moss is... by a landslide. Derrick Williams ran a 4.5, Lee Evans was drafted what... 7 or years ago? I brought up recent 40 times, in which Ginn is truly the only skilled player from the Big 10 to run a 4.3 flat. See, the SEC doesn't just have 4.3 receivers, but they have 4.3 running backs, DBs, safeties, return men, etc, etc. Their linebackers are faster, their lineman are lighter, more agile and fluid on both sides of the ball. The Big 10 remains big, physical, and slow. That works within the conference, but you better believe OSU still can't hang with Florida or Alabama... they'd get tore up from the floor up. ------------------------------------------- BEST Film of 2009: DISTRICT 9. |
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Hey read it again, no where did I say that Manningham is the fastest receiver on the Giants, I said he is the quickest (and Sinorice Moss doesn't even see the field) Manningham still burns people all day on double moves, just like he did at Michigan.
There is no doubt that southern teams/Pac 10 teams have the most overall team speed but Big ten schools still produce fast/quick NFL prospects year in and year out. |
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All Michigan needs is a defense? All I need is a million bucks. You guys got 11 new players coming in next year? So does all the other 118 teams. Dick Rod won't be around to coach them for four years, he'll be in booth giving analysis after next years the loss in Columbus. |
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